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[Duke 2.0]

Just came back, and I liked it. Maybe the story isn't really original, but isn't this kind of stuff what we really need? Sure technology for growing the neurolink trees is worth more than some stupid unobtainium?

Trees = strange might be worth it computers might not be.
 Unobtanium = Humanity in Space

 Not terribly stupid, even from a non-movie standpoint.

[Neruz]

The general guy in charge was incredibly stupid, but depressingly accurate.

[Duke 2.0]

The general guy in charge was incredibly stupid, but depressingly accurate and the best guy in the movie.

Seriously, who can't like him? He is just so lovably crazy.

[Neruz]

In the movie he is indeed amusingly nuts, the sad part is that the way he is portrayed really isn't all that different from how real life military commanders often end up. That particular character concept has very solid foundations in reality.

[NFossil]

Right... the character I find even more disturbing was actually the company guy, if the portrayal is somewhat based on reality.

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Just dismissing valuable and perhaps profitable scientific data with no reason? That's not good even for the company!

[Neruz]

Right... the character I find even more disturbing was actually the company guy, if the portrayal is somewhat based on reality.

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Just dismissing valuable and perhaps profitable scientific data with no reason? That's not good even for the company!

Data of unknown value is worth less than materials of known value. The company guy was extremely accurate for how he would act. He was in way over his head, in a situation he really didn't want to be in, and his entire job hung on the company being profitable, and the only way he had for the company to be profitable was to get that unobtainium.

[CobaltKobold]

"He'll move." "See? He moved." 

[Duke 2.0]

 Dammit!
 Last night I was using Stumble Upon and came upon a webcomic that poked at movies and games. The Avatar comic consisted of the scene where the humans are driving the smurfkittens from the giant tree, only instead of launching gas they launch yarn balls.

 The entire population runs after them.

 And then my computer deleted all history from then because it was the day my computer cleans the browsing history.

 Dammit. So if anybody sees it again, please post it.

[Idiom]

I think I was only talking about the evolution and intelligent design aspects of the Navi earlier in this thread.

What has been bugging me about this movie is that the mining company did it wrong. Whoever decided "Ground based invasion against natives!" might actually be a good idea for once failed at warfare forever.

They had the orbital advantage. THE orbital advantage. Not just the air superiority advantage, but the freaking orbital advantage. They weren't interested at all in the wildlife and trees, and what they were after was safely underground. Why wasn't scorched earth tactics and option? For MUCH cheaper than those mercs, a couple of satellites could have accomplished the job much quicker, cheaper, and more efficiently. You don't even need volatile weapons. You can literally huck rocks from space as a WMD thanks to the transfer of kinetic energy.

Chemical warfare could be really cheap and effective too. The planet was already inhospitable for us to start with.

I read too much Scifi.

That, and for the cost of those mercs, judging from the advanced state of the biotechnology we had in the movie, why wasn't biological warfare an option? Before those mercs can even be transported to the planet we could whip something up even in modern times.

[Jackrabbit]

And they control the flow of information in and out of that place considering its five years apart from the rest of humanity. There was no reason they couldn't have done that.

[CobaltKobold]

There was no reason they couldn't have done that.

Personal guilt.

[JoshuaFH]

I think I was only talking about the evolution and intelligent design aspects of the Navi earlier in this thread.

What has been bugging me about this movie is that the mining company did it wrong. Whoever decided "Ground based invasion against natives!" might actually be a good idea for once failed at warfare forever.

They had the orbital advantage. THE orbital advantage. Not just the air superiority advantage, but the freaking orbital advantage. They weren't interested at all in the wildlife and trees, and what they were after was safely underground. Why wasn't scorched earth tactics and option? For MUCH cheaper than those mercs, a couple of satellites could have accomplished the job much quicker, cheaper, and more efficiently. You don't even need volatile weapons. You can literally huck rocks from space as a WMD thanks to the transfer of kinetic energy.

Chemical warfare could be really cheap and effective too. The planet was already inhospitable for us to start with.

I read too much Scifi.

That, and for the cost of those mercs, judging from the advanced state of the biotechnology we had in the movie, why wasn't biological warfare an option? Before those mercs can even be transported to the planet we could whip something up even in modern times.

Perhaps that, even though the setting is in the far future, orbital or outerspace weapons hadn't been developed yet?

(Still haven't watched the movie, just to let you know)

[CobaltKobold]

Kinda unlikely. If it's feasible anyway.

[Jackrabbit]

There was no reason they couldn't have done that.

Personal guilt.

Are we talking about the company that did the mining? The guy on the ground had every reason to make the call and they eventually did end up killing a lot of Navi in the

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gassing and destruction of the Home Tree.

And afterward it's pretty clear the CEO didn't really care. The only reason he felt anything at all was the scientists screaming in his ear about murder.
By the end of it, it was a the General calling the shots and he sure as hell didn't care. The plan was to destroy a site of deep spiritual importance and to kill a lot of the locals, at the last, and if they'd had the sense to move orbital weapons into, well, orbit, the whole thing would have been over by lunchtime.

[cowofdoom78963]

If they had orbital weapons.