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[Neruz]

He also wasnt' fighting an entire planet.

[DJ]

He did bring down an empire with a population of millions with just 500 soldiers (and no support from the home base), armed with stuff that wasn't really all that superior, and he did it in a hostile and unknown land.

[Sean Mirrsen]

He did manage to leverage quite a few possibilities and advantages. IIRC, he also recruited warriors from Aztec tribes. I don't think humans would have nearly as much success with Cortez's tactics. And yeah, a kind of a moot point considering the biggest enemy of the humans isn't the Na'Vi.

[Halmie]

Jealous tribes helped them even it up a bit with the unknown land and numbers. It was the disease that the Spanish brought and the surprise.

Guns and steel armour are a massive leap from obsidian blades and feather armour. Not to mention horses.

I'm not saying it was easy for him though.

Also: Most of the 500 he took were probably soldiers with a few missionaries. The millions of Aztecs were farmers and masons and such.

[Neruz]

He did bring down an empire with a population of millions with just 500 soldiers (and no support from the home base), armed with stuff that wasn't really all that superior, and he did it in a hostile and unknown land.

Actually Cortez kinda screwed the whole invasion thing up pretty good. It was the diseases he brought with him that killed the Aztecs off.

The Spanish had two other huge advantages; the Aztecs thought they were gods, and the Spanish enlisted the help of other Aztec\Mayan etc tribes to even up the fight. And even then Cortez still cocked it up.


And, you know, the Spanish were able to play on the political aspects of the region as well as sending the entirity of Central America into chaos with a massive culture shock. The Na'vi sort of don't give a shit about the Sky People. And apparantly they don't have war, or politics, or any kind of internal struggles. There's not really anything to work with there.

[Duke 2.0]

 There was some suggestion that there was some form of discontent between the various split tribes, but due to having a larger flying mount such problems were gone during the preparations for the final fight.

[Neruz]

Which was also a pretty big plot hole.


Alien invaders aren't enough to get you to unite, but oh look, his bird is bigger, lets all go sacrifice our lives.

[Armok]

Alien psychology.
Actually, not even that, many possible human cultures would act exactly the same.

[Leafsnail]

I dunno... they treated that bird as a sortof God, didn't they?  If someone came riding into town on a feathered snake, it might've been enough to get the southern American tribes to unite.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

well, people came from the sea in huge floating buildings, riding huge creatures, clad in shiny clothing hard as rock, and with sticks that shot thunders...aztecs were in the stone age, they used clubs and slings, didn't have horses, didn't knew the wheel, and the only metal they worked was for decorative purposes

[DJ]

If humans played their cards right, they wouldn't have that hard a time convincing Na'vi they're gods. You can pull off a lot of smoke and mirrors stuff with advanced technology.

And seriously, how the hell are the Na'vi familiar with the concept of warfare, if they're the only sentient specie and they don't fight among themselves? Logic dictates that there must be conflict between tribes, and where's conflict there's room for divide et impera policies.

Oh, and Cortez pulled off a minor miracle. Aztec empire wasn't nearly as peaceful as you guys paint it, it was arguably the most militaristic empire at the time. Not to mention that horses are next to useless in jungle.

Anyway, if Cortez isn't good enough for you, what about Pizarro?

[Duke 2.0]

I dunno... they treated that bird as a sortof God, didn't they?  If someone came riding into town on a feathered snake, it might've been enough to get the southern American tribes to unite.

Except the creature actually existed and hunted them down. It would be akin to somebody riding a jaguar. Sure that is somewhat weird as they don't usually let people ride them, but do note that the guy riding the jaguar is Indian and is known for burning down your home after befriending you.

 Jaguar be damned.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

Not to mention that horses are next to useless in jungle.

yeah, but i was refering to the impact they made on the mesoamericans minds, the indians had never seen a horse in ther lives, probably not any animal was that big on southern and central america at the time, and spaniards showed up mounting giant beasts with shiny armor and wands of thunder, how could indians not consider them gods, or atleast demons or magicians

[DJ]

That's exactly my point. The humans should've put up a big show to impress the Navi. If they have holograph technology, there's no end to what can be done.

[userpay]

If humans played their cards right, they wouldn't have that hard a time convincing Na'vi they're gods. You can pull off a lot of smoke and mirrors stuff with advanced technology.

And seriously, how the hell are the Na'vi familiar with the concept of warfare, if they're the only sentient specie and they don't fight among themselves? Logic dictates that there must be conflict between tribes, and where's conflict there's room for divide et impera policies.

Oh, and Cortez pulled off a minor miracle. Aztec empire wasn't nearly as peaceful as you guys paint it, it was arguably the most militaristic empire at the time. Not to mention that horses are next to useless in jungle.

Anyway, if Cortez isn't good enough for you, what about Pizarro?

If I recall they did say the tribes use to fight eachother before whoever it was that first ever tamed that big ass bird united all of them.