Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Akroma]

true, ferngully has a very similar plot too, except that the evil ones are not even aware that there are natives, which is kinda important to the plot

[DJ]

I wonder though. Why some private corporation is bossing around on Pandora instead of governmental or intergovernmental agencies?

As I understand it, the corporation is basically East India Trading Company in Space, so it makes sense.

But still, who goes to a planet with possibly hostile lifeforms and doesn't bring heavy duty military equipment?

[Akroma]

was the military equipment they already had not heavy duty enough for you ?

[DJ]

Not really, no. They could use some napalm and some bombers that can fly above the lizards' cruising altitude.

[Cthulhu]

Furrysmurfs, Furrysmurfs!

Barely even human!

[Zironic]

There were a few scenes where I wouldn't have been surprised if they started singing and dancing.

[CJ1145]

Well, the biggest aspect is this video-camera helmet that the actors wear as they dance around in from of green-screens.  The cameras take a constant 3D recording of their facial expressions, so when the editors go back in later to build the models, they have a complete frame-by-frame reference of true to life and true to character facial expressions.  In other words, the 3D characters actually look and talk like people, instead of Japanese robot dolls.

Or at least that's the explanation I've gotten.  Still haven't seen it to know how well it works.

If what you're saying is correct, then it sounds like the tech they used for people's faces in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

Back to the movie at hand: Am I the only one who, as soon as they found out the aliens were called Na'vi, thought of a blue goose jutting from Limul Thak's forehead?

[Neruz]

I wonder though. Why some private corporation is bossing around on Pandora instead of governmental or intergovernmental agencies?

As I understand it, the corporation is basically East India Trading Company in Space, so it makes sense.

But still, who goes to a planet with possibly hostile lifeforms and doesn't bring heavy duty military equipment?

Someone who's going to a planet that takes 5 years to get to in space.


Mass is extremely expensive to move through space, i imagine they only took the absolute bare minimum of equipment to Pandora and fabricated most of the stuff they were using on-site (since it seems they have a pretty big mine going). There is no way in hell they'd be able to lug large quantities of heavy duty military equipment to Pandora, the price would be phenominal, especially considering they really didn't need it.

Remember, they were winning; they'd beaten the Na'vi right up until the planet itself kicked them in the ass. The equipment they had was just right for the job.



Btw, Cthulhu, go watch the movie again. The Na'vi aren't furry, their skin is smooth

[Virex]

I hope you do know the logical effect of sugesting to your superiors that one should take a more complex and expensive route because it's safer and just generaly better?

You get your behinds sued off the planet. If you're lucky. The guys on pandora were lucky, for the "High council" could just as well have said "Possible hostile aliens? Give everyone a hand gun. Problem solved".

[Sensei]

They're furless furries.

And all i thought of at the name na'vi was:

[Neruz]

I hope you do know the logical effect of sugesting to your superiors that one should take a more complex and expensive route because it's safer and just generaly better?

You get your behinds sued off the planet. If you're lucky. The guys on pandora were lucky, for the "High council" could just as well have said "Possible hostile aliens? Give everyone a hand gun. Problem solved".

Indeed; especially since The Company was probably American, and we've all seen how the Americans handle invasions.


Now if it was the British running the show, they'd know what they were doing; they'd move in, take over, subsume the Na'vi culture and then in a century or so the Na'vi would secceed in a short but bloody war and become an independant nation.

[Jude]

In real life, the humans would come back in a couple months with a massive unstoppable military, bomb the magic trees, and force the Navi all into reservations/Bantustans/refugee camps/occupied territories and then proceed to rape the rest of the planet for its unobtainium

[Cthulhu]

All is as it should be.

[Neruz]

In real life, the humans would come back in a couple months with a massive unstoppable military, bomb the magic trees, and force the Navi all into reservations/Bantustans/refugee camps/occupied territories and then proceed to rape the rest of the planet for its unobtainium

I believe a sequel is being filmed, so we'll see what happens.


IRL however, the sheer cost of getting to Pandora with any reasonable amount of military equipment makes it prohibitively expensive to invade, plus there's the whole stigma that goes with genocide.

[Aqizzar]

IRL however, the sheer cost of getting to Pandora with any reasonable amount of military equipment makes it prohibitively expensive to invade...

You really don't know how science fiction works do you?  "Reasonable amount" of anything is whatever is cost effective to carry.  That they brought a whole army with them proves that, within the logic of Avatar's humanity, interplanetary travel is pretty cheap.

Also, this movie suddenly reminded me of an ancient PC-RPG called "Albion" about weird alien-elf-cats and psychic trees.  Anyone else ever play it?