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« Reply #150 on: December 24, 2009, 03:00:55 am »

It seems somewhat unlikely that terrestial microbes would be able to infect the Na'vi, considering that the atmosphere was toxic.
There are those bacteria that thrive in toxic conditions...
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« Reply #151 on: December 24, 2009, 03:08:09 am »

It seems somewhat unlikely that terrestial microbes would be able to infect the Na'vi, considering that the atmosphere was toxic.
There are those bacteria that thrive in toxic conditions...
Yeah, but they're really well-adapted to those conditions specifically.
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« Reply #152 on: December 24, 2009, 03:35:05 am »

It seems somewhat unlikely that terrestial microbes would be able to infect the Na'vi, considering that the atmosphere was toxic.
There are those bacteria that thrive in toxic conditions...
Yeah, but they're really well-adapted to those conditions specifically.
Precisely.

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« Reply #153 on: December 24, 2009, 06:40:33 am »

It seems somewhat unlikely that terrestial microbes would be able to infect the Na'vi, considering that the atmosphere was toxic.
There are those bacteria that thrive in toxic conditions...
Yeah, but they're really well-adapted to those conditions specifically.
Precisely.
Put bacteria in a toxic environment similiar to the one on earth. Wait 10 years, come back to a dead planet?
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« Reply #154 on: December 24, 2009, 07:08:16 am »

It seems somewhat unlikely that terrestial microbes would be able to infect the Na'vi, considering that the atmosphere was toxic.
There are those bacteria that thrive in toxic conditions...
Yeah, but they're really well-adapted to those conditions specifically.
Precisely.
Put bacteria in a toxic environment similiar to the one on earth. Wait 10 years, come back to a dead planet?
Now you're just plain not making any sense.

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« Reply #155 on: December 24, 2009, 07:24:27 am »

If they can hybridize humans with Na'vi, hybridising Earth bacteria with local ones should be a piece of cake.
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« Reply #156 on: December 24, 2009, 07:43:08 am »

I dunno; it's plainly ovbious from the Na'vi phsyical form that they didn't evolve on Pandora; in fact the only reason to assume they did evolve on Pandora is because they have the mindrape tentacle things, but their tentacles are in their hair rather than in a long antenna thing, so it seems likely to assume that the Na'vi are in fact genetically engineered aliens seeded onto the planet by an unknown agency.

This would also explain why their DNA was close enough to earth creature DNA that they could be hybridized.

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« Reply #157 on: December 24, 2009, 08:05:47 am »

I wonder though. Why some private corporation is bossing around on Pandora instead of governmental or intergovernmental agencies?

All right, unobtainium is cool and valuable, but an alien biosphere is just as valuable and the biocomputers and neuro-interfaces are also quite promising, and taken together they are definitely more valuable than all unobtainium combined.

And yet there are only about 4-5 scientists on the planet and even those scientists are corporate employees.

And that corporation is very much NOT omnipotent like Weyland-Yutani for example. Humans don't have a lot of weaponry on Pandora, and nearly nothing in the way of heavy weapons - they had to manually (sic!) drop industrial explosives (sic!) from armed but obviously civilian transports (sic!) instead of doing proper aerial bombardment. And their combat helis don't look top-of-the-line either, they are rather some light auxilliary models. Also consider the total lack of land-based armor - those mecha look really stupid in combat roles, and I have a nagging suspicion that they are actually converted civilian models or, in the best-case scenario, an anti-insurgent weapon - something that can be used against savages or poorly armed civilians, but is destroyed instantly on the real battlefield.
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« Reply #158 on: December 24, 2009, 08:30:10 am »

Because one of the modern sci-fi concepts is that of 'giga-corperations', gigantic corperations bigger than countries. Avatar went down that route.

The Company might not have a whole lotta hardware on Pandora, but it's the only organisation with enough money to get there in the first place, and presumably back home on earth it has the political clout neccessary to ensure no-one else even tries.


As for the Mecha, well sure they're pretty dumb, but they're not quite as dumb as trying to use a Tank in a forest as heavy as Pandora.

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« Reply #159 on: December 24, 2009, 08:47:11 am »

Couldn't the company have just waited for an attack from the Na'vi anyway?  I mean, there was no way they were gonna break into the compound...
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« Reply #160 on: December 24, 2009, 08:53:52 am »

'giga-corperations'

Megacorporation.  Three o's and a mega.  Get it right or Philip K. Dick will stab you in the throat.
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« Reply #161 on: December 24, 2009, 09:00:59 am »

Or rather, hit him with a purple beam from space.

I'm curious, what's the technology behind Avatar's 3d? How is it "revolutionary", as the media are labeling it?
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« Reply #162 on: December 24, 2009, 09:10:38 am »

Well, the biggest aspect is this video-camera helmet that the actors wear as they dance around in from of green-screens.  The cameras take a constant 3D recording of their facial expressions, so when the editors go back in later to build the models, they have a complete frame-by-frame reference of true to life and true to character facial expressions.  In other words, the 3D characters actually look and talk like people, instead of Japanese robot dolls.

Or at least that's the explanation I've gotten.  Still haven't seen it to know how well it works.
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« Reply #163 on: December 24, 2009, 09:14:38 am »

am I the onl one who thinks that this movie was like a remake of pocahontas ?
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« Reply #164 on: December 24, 2009, 10:08:53 am »

 Not till they start singing the lyrics "They're not like you and me, which means they must be evil!"

 And that actually works slightly better than comparing it to Ferngully.
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