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Re: Is Avatar good
« Reply #630 on: May 08, 2010, 09:05:03 am »

I think the District 9 CGI aliens were much better done than the Na'vi. Na'vi look kinda plastic, prawns looked like actual living creatures. Avatar certainly wins in sheer quantity of CGI, but I don't think it's number one when it comes to quality.
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« Reply #631 on: May 08, 2010, 09:09:25 am »

i'm all for district 9 and hate avatar, it's animeish aestetics, etc. but it's far easier to cgi insectoid aliens than humanoid or mamaloid creatures

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« Reply #632 on: May 08, 2010, 09:25:14 am »

i'm all for district 9 and hate avatar, it's animeish aestetics, etc. but it's far easier to cgi insectoid aliens than humanoid or mamaloid creatures

Bullshit, the District 9 CGI aliens are a masterpiece and have to be some of the most difficult CGI i've seen. Avatar gets amazingness for having environment CGI that is just breathtaking, but the Prawns from District 9 are masterworks on a similar level, if smaller in scale.

The ability to show human emotions on what was pretty much a prawn face and get the sympathy of the audience despite never speaking anything other than unintelligible clicks and whirrs is simply amazing. I've rewatched District 9 over and over, looking at the subtle movements they put into the Prawn faces to get them to look human without actually looking human.


Of course the best thing about the Prawns is they're actually plausible alien life, unlike the Na'vi, who could have been plausible, if their physical form wasn't a gigantic plot hole and they weren't specifically designed to be cute and lovable.

The real awesome in Avatar was the environments. The environments were just amazing. There's no two ways about it.

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« Reply #633 on: May 08, 2010, 12:29:26 pm »

i'm all for district 9 and hate avatar, it's animeish aestetics, etc. but it's far easier to cgi insectoid aliens than humanoid or mamaloid creatures
Bullshit, the District 9 CGI aliens are a masterpiece and have to be some of the most difficult CGI i've seen. Avatar gets amazingness for having environment CGI that is just breathtaking, but the Prawns from District 9 are masterworks on a similar level, if smaller in scale.

The ability to show human emotions on what was pretty much a prawn face and get the sympathy of the audience despite never speaking anything other than unintelligible clicks and whirrs is simply amazing. I've rewatched District 9 over and over, looking at the subtle movements they put into the Prawn faces to get them to look human without actually looking human.

actually, i agree with that. what i meant is that, technologically, insectoid\robots etc. are less demanding.

also, i loved disctrict 9 and watched it preciselly 3.5 times, but the fact they are so prawn like makes them a little less plausible. still, i don't care all that much about that, the challenge was still there and was overcome.

I hate avatar. My issue with it is that it was cheap. It was cheap despite being the most monetary expensive film in the world: there was no risk involved in it, it was unoriginal at all levels: artistically, intellectually, etc. it was nothing more than a trailer to showcase the latest advancements in cgi technology.

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« Reply #634 on: May 08, 2010, 12:31:35 pm »

I've seen District 9 twice now, once in theater and once at home and it's great both ways.

It had a 30 million dollar budget right?  That's 10 times less than Avatar.
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« Reply #635 on: May 08, 2010, 02:14:53 pm »

Oh Cool!  Another senseless fight of tastes using the words love and hate...

Surely all objectivity is gathered together in this thread...



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« Reply #636 on: May 08, 2010, 02:25:30 pm »

Of course, because people's opinions mean absolutely nothing and obviously the best way of examining art is through scientific method.

(if you're really only complaining about people colloquially using "love" and "hate", then that's too petty a characteristic for me to comment on, nor is it worth you posting about)
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« Reply #637 on: May 08, 2010, 03:19:23 pm »

No... I'm just fed up of...

No... Boca Juniors sucks... River Plate is awesome... kinda discussions... (Those are Argentinian Football teams)

And people who (irrationaly support) love something because it's hype and people that hate it because it's hype...

It's getting old.
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« Reply #638 on: May 08, 2010, 03:21:36 pm »

We are all getting old.
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« Reply #639 on: May 08, 2010, 03:32:51 pm »

I liked it. I wasn't looking for David Niven-caliber science-fiction. I was looking to spend $12 to be entertained for a few hours. And I was.

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« Reply #640 on: May 08, 2010, 03:33:19 pm »

I hate avatar. My issue with it is that it was cheap. It was cheap despite being the most monetary expensive film in the world: there was no risk involved in it, it was unoriginal at all levels: artistically, intellectually, etc. it was nothing more than a trailer to showcase the latest advancements in cgi technology.
ID Software have largely been doing this exact same thing for... how many years now? It still works.
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« Reply #641 on: May 08, 2010, 03:34:54 pm »

And people who (irrationaly support) love something because it's hype and people that hate it because it's hype...

And who is doing that where?
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« Reply #642 on: May 08, 2010, 04:15:36 pm »

I hated Avatar because the disc was too round.
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« Reply #643 on: May 08, 2010, 05:05:37 pm »

I hated Avatar because the disc was too round.
I hate Avatar because the top of the letter A in Avatar was too sharp at the top.
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« Reply #644 on: May 08, 2010, 05:47:23 pm »

I enjoyed the movie. I realize it's pretty derivative, but it entertained me and that's all I can ask for.

I also thought the effects were outstanding. The young female princess alien was hot. /shrug

D9 was great, too. A bit more original. I like 'em both.
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