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« Reply #465 on: January 07, 2010, 07:40:01 pm »

True. But then, artillery would have also been good.
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« Reply #466 on: January 07, 2010, 07:42:01 pm »

And afterward it's pretty clear the CEO didn't really care. The only reason he felt anything at all was the scientists screaming in his ear about murder.
Right. How are you going to keep them from talking about it when they get back?

If you propose to kill them, how do you propose to prevent THAT from getting out?

It just spirals out of control rapidly.
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« Reply #467 on: January 07, 2010, 07:47:22 pm »

Oh, that's actually quite easy, I'd think.

They are on a hostile planet. A death world, nearly, where damn near everything is trying to kill you, and it's a five year journey back home. They just need to preemptively lock up any liabilities and dump them in the deep forest with no communicators or even clothes.

Of course, that doesn't make it foolproof.
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and of course they could use communicators to get the word out to Earth. But whilst the first can't be guarded against, the second can. In terms of suppressing the scientists, they really had a wealth of options,all of which involve the 'tragic' death of several members of the science team after they went rouge, stole a transport and crashed in the deep jungle despite valiant attempts to save them.

It could spiral out of control rapidly. But with the proper precautions, it probably won't. Admittedly the death of most of the science team would raise eyebrows, but I think they could deal with that.

EDIT: This doesn't take into account things like people balking at the very idea, like the CEO might. I'm just musing, you understand.
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« Reply #468 on: January 07, 2010, 07:53:20 pm »

Why don't we all just propose the most outlandish methods of killing off all the inhabitants of a given planet, given the circumstances they were in?

"Oh, Let's just throw a 100 teraton Nuclear bomb into their local star, make it go supernova, and then we watch the light show from the edge of the solar system?"

"No, why don't we toss millons of tons of CFC's into their ozone layer, make it disintegrate, and allow solar radiation to take them all out for us?"

"NO! Why don't we develop teleportation gates, throw one into orbit around the planet, throw the other into a water-giant planet, then watch as all the water from the water giant gets teleported to the other gate, where it then falls to the surface and eventually floods everything Noah's Ark style? Then we can just use more Teleportation gates to unflood the planet, and reap the rewards!"
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« Reply #469 on: January 07, 2010, 07:56:04 pm »

I bet weapons manufacturers R&D departments in the future will all be staffed by mad scientists.
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« Reply #470 on: January 07, 2010, 07:57:03 pm »

My point is, someone knows about dumping the scientists somewhere. Unless they're ALSO in hatred of their own race (which the Colonel did not seem to be, he at least appeared to take his security job seriously) there will be doubt about that.

Also, read that comic someone linked, since that's exactly what's done there and it doesn't work. (The leaving them to die.)
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« Reply #471 on: January 07, 2010, 07:58:47 pm »

Yes, the people involved in dumping the scientists would have had to be silenced too. I do see your point.
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« Reply #472 on: January 07, 2010, 08:00:53 pm »

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« Reply #473 on: January 07, 2010, 08:01:59 pm »

Evil scientists, I tell you.
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« Reply #474 on: January 07, 2010, 08:05:01 pm »

And then the silencers. And then those silencers. Yes.

"Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead." --Ben Franklin

PPE: I seriously don't see the 'cat people' bit everyone keeps talking about. Also, their body hair level is such that they should call the humans 'furry'.If that were an insult, anyway.
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« Reply #475 on: January 07, 2010, 08:14:52 pm »

Kinda unlikely. If it's feasible anyway.

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« Reply #476 on: January 07, 2010, 08:52:58 pm »

Also; the reason you need to send ground troops in is because unless you're planning on using exorbant amounts of materials and energy to glass the entire region, you won't get everything with aerial bombardment.

Didn't you guys learn anything from Vietnam? And Afghanistan? And Iraq?

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« Reply #477 on: January 07, 2010, 09:10:42 pm »

 Except none of those places were tinderboxes which were going to be subsequently mined out. We didn't want to burn down all the forests of Vietnam because there are civilians we don't want killed and destroying every jungle would be an ecological disaster.

 None of those problems apply here. We are going to tear down that jungle anyway.
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« Reply #478 on: January 07, 2010, 09:13:31 pm »

You realise that entire argument revolves around the humans having absolutely no morals at all and being perfectly willing to decimate potentially an entire planet and all the living things as well as indiscriminate slaughter of intelligent beings (women and children) many of whom have probably never engaged in any hostilities, just for monetary gain?

Sure, Humans are assholes, but there are limits; the company guy wasn't very nice, but he wasn't a complete monster.

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« Reply #479 on: January 07, 2010, 09:14:43 pm »

 Thus why we use yarn balls.
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