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Re: Is Avatar good
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2009, 11:04:57 am »

It's mentioned a few times throughout the movie that The Company (that's in charge of the mining operation) still has to report to shareholders, who really dislike bad publicity. Nuking the planet from orbit would definitely make The Company look bad, and shares would plummet.

Man, Avatar is a movie that really has to be seen to be understood. You can argue on this forum all day about how unrealistic it is for the aliens to be humanoid, or how simple and cliche the plot is. The fact of the matter is, Avatar heralds the dawn of a new form of cinema. It's not perfect, but it's definitely exciting. Go watch it and experience it for yourself.
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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2009, 11:11:55 am »

Sarin it is then. They're apparently very similar to us, so it should work on them. The company can just claim they caught some Earth disease and their immune systems couldn't handle it.
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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2009, 11:20:18 am »

 But still, one would wonder what Smallpox would do to them.
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« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2009, 11:21:00 am »

Well, it may or may not do quite a large amount of things, up to and including causing the end of the universe. Might as well launch the earth via a massive induced gravitational anomaly.
Um. What? Nobody with any knowledge of what the LHC actually does would say anything this nonsensical.
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« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2009, 11:27:06 am »

It was a joke, don't try to rebuke it.

As my favourite reviewer put it, Avatar is apparently "Dances with wolves" IN SPACE, and is filled with tropes to the brink. But she still liked it.
So, the question is: do you guys find the movie a pleasant experience, despite all the cliches?
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« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2009, 11:29:36 am »

40k Virus Bombs.  Kill everything organic on the planet in a few minutes.  Half hour later when everything's decomposing, drop a few incendiary charges and ignite all those flammable gases being produced.

Then just tell the shareholders a disease went through and you had to burn the planet to prevent it from spreading.

Through space.

They called the mineral they were after unobtainium, don't tell me they can't throw something stupid past the shareholders.
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« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2009, 11:35:27 am »

Unobtanium costs 20 million per kilogram, what do they make with that stuff? Inkjet printer ink?

The big problem I had with Avatar was a sever migraine reaction after removing the 3d glasses at the end of the movie. It was a decent movie, very pretty, pretty unoriginal, lots of bad tactics, badly designed technology, to many scenes like that ad with the indian that had a single tear rolling down his face.
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« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2009, 12:02:51 pm »

It's definitely "Dances with Wolves" on an alien planet. It's also more than that, and everything else it has it does very well.

The story isn't intended to be deep or revealing, Avatar is a movie which is really about the sense of EPIC. If anything else, it's a movie that you can look at through many different view points, and still go "AWESOME" when something badass happens.

Just go see it, it's worth the money, and be sure to take some good friends with you.

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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2009, 12:33:25 pm »

Y'know, I actually quite liked it.  Yes, unoriginal, and yes, I could predict the ending after about 20 minutes, but it was still pretty epic and cool.

A few random gripes (don't pay too much attention to them):
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But these are kinda petty issues.  I quite enjoyed it anyway.
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« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2009, 12:54:32 pm »

Eh, I guess I'll try and rationalize some of these gripes.

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« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2009, 01:08:33 pm »

Apparently the mineral is used to make energy.
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The bombs wouldn't work on animals, because, well they're not Sticky Bombs.
A mecha would carry a giant knife for, well, I don't know. In case their gun loses ammo or it gets crushed  or something?
Those "Dragons" look like Vultures from Halo Wars or whatever they use to build the bases.
Who the hell names something Unobtanium?
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« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2009, 01:12:42 pm »

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« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2009, 01:13:13 pm »

First of all, the whole "Arrows shoot through windows" thing should have never been brought up.  If you can't design a mech that uses cameras instead of windows, you don't deserve to be doing military R&D.  I mean, we have vehicles today that don't need windows for the gunner to see.

The hands is stupid too.  You can have hands on a vehicle without forcing them to hold their guns.  Hardpoints, man.  They need to fire their hardware-designer.
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« Reply #58 on: December 23, 2009, 01:19:06 pm »

The mecha can use knives for the same thing anyone else uses machetes in a jungle. One Battletech novel even described battlemechs being outfitted with blades at the expense of normal guns, for scouting through a particularly nasty jungle.

And Unobtainium is a catch-all for anything that is prohibitively hard to get. See the TVTropes article with the same name, or the other film with lax science, The Core.
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« Reply #59 on: December 23, 2009, 01:19:35 pm »

Who the hell names something Unobtanium?
Somebody who is such a geek that he knows all the movie and tv tropes by heart, and thinks that by deliberately calling something falling under a well estabilished and run-to-death trope exactly what the trope is known as(http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Unobtainium) to the nerdy movie goers, will cause them to relize that the movie is all too aware of it's own cliched story, and will invite them to drop their scepticism and just enjoy the show?
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