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[Kinoko_Otoko]

What determines the possible artifacts for a given mood? It seems to be the base material, but the possibilities for that seem to be determined by the workshop the dwarf claims. I say the workshop and not the dwarf because I once switched a dwarf's mood from gem cutting to weaponsmith, in the hopes that I would get a sapphire war hammer or something. However, this is further muddied by the fact that it seems possible to change the base material to something other than the default (at least when using Dwarf Companion).

Add to all this the fact that I had a gem setter who kept making Perfect Emeralds (among other things) but my gem cutters don't seem to make perfect gems...

I've always messed around with my moods though, so I can't really say. Does anyone actually know what determines possible artifacts?

[smjjames]

There is quite a bit that is known about moods: http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Mood

As far as messing with the moods via Dwarf Companion, no idea.

[Kinoko_Otoko]

This didn't really give me a lot of info on what artifacts are possible from what moods. It just confirms that they generally follow common sense (weaponsmiths making weapons, etc).

[smjjames]

Well, I've gotten a bone mace once, as well as a bone bin. Artifacts will often be one of the dwarfs preferences.

[Nirreln]

This didn't really give me a lot of info on what artifacts are possible from what moods. It just confirms that they generally follow common sense (weaponsmiths making weapons, etc).

The mood has no effect on what type of item that is made save for fell and macabre. Other than that the only restriction is what the claimed workshop can make.

[Retro]

This didn't really give me a lot of info on what artifacts are possible from what moods. It just confirms that they generally follow common sense (weaponsmiths making weapons, etc).

The mood has no effect on what type of item that is made save for fell and macabre. Other than that the only restriction is what the claimed workshop can make.

Not necessarily - for example, artifact leather instruments.

[Blargityblarg]

Or a turtle bone battle axe- I think the restriction is what the workshop can make, plus the dwarf's interests. Not sure, though.

[smjjames]

Or a turtle bone battle axe- I think the restriction is what the workshop can make, plus the dwarf's interests. Not sure, though.

Yea, mechanic workshops can't create anything else besides mechanisms, there aren't even any artifact mechanisms made with a base material other than rock. So, yea the workshop could have something to do with it.

The mechanics behind how moods work may change with the new material stuff though.

[Hortun]

Yea, mechanic workshops can't create anything else besides mechanisms, there aren't even any artifact mechanisms made with a base material other than rock. So, yea the workshop could have something to do with it.

I'm pretty sure my dwarves have made metal mechanisms before. I remember being a bit pissed that my dwarf used a unit of aluminum ore to make an artifact mechanism.

[smjjames]

Yea, mechanic workshops can't create anything else besides mechanisms, there aren't even any artifact mechanisms made with a base material other than rock. So, yea the workshop could have something to do with it.

I'm pretty sure my dwarves have made metal mechanisms before. I remember being a bit pissed that my dwarf used a unit of aluminum ore to make an artifact mechanism.

I mean metal bars, not ore, which is still a rock.

[Hortun]

I mean metal bars, not ore, which is still a rock.

Ooh, you're right. Okay, that makes sense.

[Kinoko_Otoko]

So are we thinking that only preferences will make a dwarf build something that the workshop normally can't make? That would sorta make sense, although I'm pretty sure it's not always true, if it's true at all... I know I've gotten at least 2 things other than gems from a gem related mood (and the jeweler's shop).

And I certainly hope a moody weaponsmith isn't going to churn out an artifact steel cabinet, just because he likes cabinets...

[Mraedis]

Gem cutters can still make weaponry. I got a gem door, gem animal trap and gem bed. So it's not limited to perfect gems or anything.

[dAGNARUS]

I can safely conclude that profession does not influence the type of artifact, because all of a sudden my MINER claimed the mason's workshop and made a legendary weapon rack.

[Blargityblarg]

Miner moods behave like mason moods; it's a bit nonsensical that mining is moodable at all: it has no workshop.