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Mongo

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Miners Digging too deep
« on: December 21, 2009, 07:11:12 pm »

I've had it happen several times where I have my dwarfs start digging tunnels down z-levels, when suddenly they won't come back up! I've tried assigning them jobs and other things, but they won't move from their level! Does anybody know why this happens?
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 07:17:26 pm »

you may have accidentally dug out their ladders or up-ramps...it's happened to me.
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 07:18:17 pm »

Do you use stairs or ramps? Ramps are really picky about under what conditions they work under.

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 07:18:32 pm »

how are you 'digging down'?  if you are using ramps then maybe you are removing the supporting wall that is needed to allow the dwarves to use the ramps to get back up?  That is the only situation I can think of that could cause what you are describing.  See the link above for ramp specifics.
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 07:39:12 pm »

XXXXXXXX     Z-Level 0                X=Un-mined   G=Mined   D=Down ramp
GGGGGGDX
XXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX     Z-Level -1              H=Miner who's not leaving   U=Upward ramp
GGHGGGUX
XXXXXXXX
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 07:51:10 pm »

Read the wiki page on Ramps.
You see, the ramps in this game mostly work like ramps in real life, the ramp cannot curve backwards the way you just drew it, you should either try stairs or learning how to correctly make ramps, which would be to make sure the dwarves can drop off on the opposite side of the ramp that they walk up(note that the opposite side of the ramp also needs to have a wall on the bottom floor... eh, just read the wiki. :) )

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 07:59:33 pm »

The last G in z-level-1 renders the ramp unusable.

Replace it with:

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XXXXXXXX
GGGGGGDX
XXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX
GGHGGXUX
XXXXGGGX
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 08:20:19 pm »

Or you could use up/down stairs. Those are cool.
You'd probably have to make your miner there construct some, but miners upstairs could dig up/down stairs from above.

Still, I guess it's good if you learn how ramps work. I think everyone else here covered you.
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 08:44:07 pm »

The last G in z-level-1 renders the ramp unusable.

Replace it with:

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XXXXXXXX
GGGGGGDX
XXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX
GGHGGXUX
XXXXGGGX

Could I still fit trader's wagons by making it this way?

XXXXXXXXXXXX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXXXXXXXXXX

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 08:54:38 pm »

is that u an upstairs?
if so no.
If it is an upward ramp, then im not sure... dont think so as it doesnt have enough space to fit them all.

But even if it does work the animals that pull the wagon will go through the wall. ( for a second or two then be pushed up).

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 08:54:44 pm »

Mongo, you confuse me so. Your avatar is exactly the same as mine, so I look at your post and go, "Wait, I didn't say that!" until I realise that, yes, I didn't say that.

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2009, 08:59:23 pm »

Ramps; making everything more complicated

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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2009, 09:20:01 pm »

The last G in z-level-1 renders the ramp unusable.

Replace it with:

Code: [Select]
XXXXXXXX
GGGGGGDX
XXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX
GGHGGXUX
XXXXGGGX

Could I still fit trader's wagons by making it this way?

XXXXXXXXXXXX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
GGGGGGXUGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXGGGGGGGGX
XXXXXXXXXXXX



XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
GGGGGGGGXXXXXUGGGGGGX
GGGGGGGGXXXXXUGGGGGGX
GGGGGGGGXXXXXUGGGGGGX
XXXXGGGGXXXXXUGGGGGGX
XXXXGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGX
XXXXGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGX
XXXXGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

U=Upward Ramp   G=Mined out Ground   X=Un-Mined Ground   

I think this would work


Mongo, you confuse me so. Your avatar is exactly the same as mine, so I look at your post and go, "Wait, I didn't say that!" until I realise that, yes, I didn't say that.

^^;


I kind of got it from you    :-\
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2009, 10:02:24 pm »

I actually recall reading a thread with a third person using that avatar from a while back. Heh.
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Re: Miners Digging too deep
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 11:06:14 am »

Never use ramps unless you are making a caravan pathway.  Ramps are buggy and seem to dissapear for odd reasons, and things other then merchants don't path through them properly. 
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