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[Nirur Torir]

Spitfire, you have yet to post today. It's easier to get a feel for who the scum is by questioning them yourself then just watching them fighting with others ... unless you are the scum, and are just trying to watch townies fighting. The only way to get better at questioning is to start questioning, so stop lurking.

Now then: What is your opinion on why Monk was killed?

[spitfire684]

What the...? I have posted today, what are you on about?? I have been at school all day so I couldnt of posted in the last few hours or so.
I have no idea why monk was killed, probally so it was easier for the scum to hammer someone with more active players im guessing. Although im still confused why monk was killed and not somebody else.
I posted about 3 times yesterday so you can't accuse me of lurking

[spitfire684]

So what would you say? Why was monk killed do you think and what are your opinions on it?

[Nirur Torir]

What the...? I have posted today, what are you on about?? I have been at school all day so I couldnt of posted in the last few hours or so.
I have no idea why monk was killed, probally so it was easier for the scum to hammer someone with more active players im guessing. Although im still confused why monk was killed and not somebody else.
I posted about 3 times yesterday so you can't accuse me of lurking

Can't I? There is a block of around 38 hours where you didn't post in this thread. That counts as lurking to me.
You sound very defensive and somewhat upset about me calling you out on that. Why?

You did ask a question, which is good, so I'll answer it: Monk was inactive, and liable to be replaced. I'm guessing the scum didn't want an unknown joining the fray.

[spitfire684]

I guess thats understandable
Sorry for the long gap then, was busy doing work.

[spitfire684]

I didn't notice it was 38 hours, time obviously flies.. Felt like I only posted yesterday.
Anyway, I don't know if this question is useful since I am new and not sure what to ask but I will ask anyway:
Who did you suspect was scum in the past?

[Nirur Torir]

Mostly I try to question the people I suspect, so looking back should give you a good idea of who I suspected.

Why do you think Magma hasn't posted in over 24 hours?

[MagmaDeath]

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Really Nirur Torir?

When all the questions were pointed at spitfire, and I was waiting for him to answer, you INSTANTLY try to get him to vote me for lurking?

Nice try scum, nice try.

And spitfire, I suspected Cheddarius, until the spew of cop tells, Then got the Nirur torir, and RNG scumteam, which I STILL think exists.

Time for a barrage of questions

I really don't feel that role-claiming is helpful here, as the scum would just town claim. I think you're trying to distract us from scum-hunting, Spitfire. A town-claim wouldn't be reliable regardless, as it's usually seen as a scum-tell.
Why can't you think of more questions? Are you going to just keep letting others play the game for you?

I didn't need to vote since it still would of been 2 on him 1 on the others.
And since that was the case I thought, 'well I know it won't  make a difference but I will do it anyway'.

So, you joined the bandwagon just because you wanted in on the lynch. Sounds to me like you were bussing your partner.

Nice try to get me to help you lynch the lurker there.

Why are you reluctant to Roleclaim?

Is it because you are scum?

Are you scum?

Do you think I am scum?


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Spitfire684, are YOU scum?

Do you think Nirur is scum?

Do you think I am scum?

And as you said, Who do you suspect as scum in the past?

[Nirur Torir]

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Really Nirur Torir?

When all the questions were pointed at spitfire, and I was waiting for him to answer, you INSTANTLY try to get him to vote me for lurking?


Nice try scum, nice try.

Ultra-defensiveness by aggressiveness mode activate!
No, I wasn't trying to get him to vote for you. I was asking a question, because I'm running low on things to ask.

And spitfire, I suspected Cheddarius, until the spew of cop tells, Then got the Nirur torir, and RNG scumteam, which I STILL think exists.

Time for a barrage of questions

I really don't feel that role-claiming is helpful here, as the scum would just town claim. I think you're trying to distract us from scum-hunting, Spitfire. A town-claim wouldn't be reliable regardless, as it's usually seen as a scum-tell.
Why can't you think of more questions? Are you going to just keep letting others play the game for you?

I didn't need to vote since it still would of been 2 on him 1 on the others.
And since that was the case I thought, 'well I know it won't  make a difference but I will do it anyway'.

So, you joined the bandwagon just because you wanted in on the lynch. Sounds to me like you were bussing your partner.

Nice try to get me to help you lynch the lurker there.

Reaction fishing. He didn't give off a scummy response to it, not that you care.

Why are you reluctant to Roleclaim?

Is it because you are scum?

Purely because I don't think it will solve anything.

Are you scum?

No.

Do you think I am scum?

Quite probably. You seriously blew up at that lurker accusation, and I still don't see the point in following through with the Cheddarius lynch. His willingness to go along with being lynched to prove himself a cop clearly showed to me that he was, indeed, a cop. An experienced player might have been a scum pulling a fast one, but I don't think he is confident enough to try that yet. You could have unvoted him at the last few hours easily. But you didn't.

I ask you again. Why did you feel the need to lynch him? I thought him to obviously be a cop near the end of yesterday. You claimed to have trusted him the day before that.

[spitfire684]

No, I am not scum
At the moment Nirur Torir is much more scummy than Magma, like Magma said, it did seem you wanted me to lynch magma for leaving for 24 hours, I left longer and it seems you havent questioned that as much for some reason? Nevermind, I will carry on. Wait, did you ever actully suspect RNG, Nirur? Perhaps you wouldn't suspect a scum buddy eh?
Anyway, I was first suspecting Cheddarious at the beggining of the game, with all his jokes and overall scumminess. Then, after he had died and found he was a cop I turned more to Nirur and RNG, so now one of thems gone, I now go onto the other I suspected...

[Nirur Torir]

That question was mostly to see who jumped. You did not take it as an excuse to attack him, but notice how emotional he got about it.

Did I suspect RNG? Sure. But he was already going down, whether or not I stepped in. I decided to continue questioning other people.

Magma, you didn't answer my earlier question about why you were focusing only on Spitfire, instead of questioning us both.

[spitfire684]

Im guessing that Magma was focusing on me because of me apprently lurking all this time (I probally was, sorry). Thats why he is asking alot of questions to me, because he didn't get much of a chance to before.

[MagmaDeath]

That question was mostly to see who jumped. You did not take it as an excuse to attack him, but notice how emotional he got about it.

Did I suspect RNG? Sure. But he was already going down, whether or not I stepped in. I decided to continue questioning other people.

Magma, you didn't answer my earlier question about why you were focusing only on Spitfire, instead of questioning us both.

Spitfire got it Exactly right.
 
Nirur Torir, You were focusing on others, In a hope to make Cheddarius seem scummy enough to lynch over RNG, hopefully saving him.
 
You are experianced to realize that jumping on him at the last minute would have made you seem much more scummy than not.
 
As Ive stated many times, a confirmed cop is MUCH better to have dead, than an unconfirmed one at Lylo.
 
Nirur Torir, you Still havent roleclaimed.
 
Why?
 
The barrage of questions was to spark up some new discussions, as the thread was dying down.

[Nirur Torir]

Why haven't I roleclaimed? It seems like a pointless gesture to me, unless I'm directly asked or have a good reason for revealing my power role. I'm a vanilla townie. My pokemon type is a ditto, which let's me morph and use people's abilities on them.

I'll think of more questions later, when I have more time.

[Nirur Torir]

Spitfire, I don't believe you're the scum. You're new, but haven't dropped much in the way of scum-tells, despite pressure. By process of elimination:

Magmadeath, you are the scum, although you've done your job well and I doubt I can convince Spitfire of it, yet I must try.

Why didn't RNG cast any suspicion at me? I see no reason why he should have, if his partner was on that. Bonus points for planning ahead and not poking me. I don't know if you bussing him was planned or not. Maybe he wanted to drop out of the game, but do what he could to ensure you won rather then ask for a replacement. Accusing your buddy and some other person of being the scumteam shortly before bussing him isn't an unheard of trick.

Why Cheddarius was lynched: You were afraid of a doctor protecting him last night, and couldn't have Cheddarius confirming me as town. You'd hoped it would work against me, as the odds of probability aren't in favor of me being town.

Why me as a target: Grudge from me getting lucky against you in BM6, perhaps? Or perhaps the plan to accuse me of being with RNG came when it was too late for him to paint anybody else with the "lack of suspicion" target.

Why Spitfire: He was the one who pointed out that RNG didn't try to throw suspicion on me, and he's new. You figured that, with him already slightly against me, you could buddy up to him easily. It's worked.

Why Alsark and Monk were killed: Alsark claimed to be experienced. You feared he would be better at finding you out then me. Monk, as I said, was likely to be replaced by an unknown.

Why haven't you voted me yet: You said a while back that you thought Spitfire was dropping newb-tells rather then scum-tells. You've been hoping I said something you could use to use to accuse me of slipping up with with for a while, at least since over-dissecting my guesses yesterday. You've also been slowly trying to buddy up with Spitfire, to make sure he would side with you. I also think you're afraid of me. Afraid I'd be able to point out your weaknesses if you did strongly attack me.

Spitfire, the game rests with you. I urge you to re-read this last day first with the point of view that I am certain scum, then with the point of few that Magma is certain scum. Choose well.