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[Alsark]

If it has appeared i was lurking im sorry. Now that christmas and new year time is passing I can go on more. Unfortunately my laptop fan has broken down and im getting it repaired on the 4th and I don't know when I will get it back. I might be able to use an old computer however. Also we would need to discuss more if we have any hope in finding scum.

It's okay - a lot of people are busy around this time of year.

I think a lot of our hope will come when we successfully lynch our first scum. I'm personally better at finding scum logically as compared to intuitively. Unfortunately, since we don't know who is scum, it's difficult for me to critically analyze people's posts to detect scum. Looking at people's reactions with people you know are scum is a good way of finding scum, but obviously that's not possible at the moment.

Some people I have played with have "magic guts". I was in this one game with... I believe 30 starting players. There were 6 mafia. On night one somebody correctly predicted every single mafia and "knew" I was the godfather role. Personally I think he was cheating, but some people really do just have an amazing sense of intuition. Sadly, that isn't me :/. It also helps to play with people a couple of rounds to see what people play like when they're town and see what people play like when they're mafia. Since I don't know anybody here that is not possible for me... so that brings me to another question...

Have any of you played with one another before? If so, can you recall if that person's playing style has changed since last time?

[spitfire684]

I havent played with any of you before... your all new to me

[Cheddarius]

Cheddarius - The reason I have had my vote on you all game is because you were switching your vote around so much - generally to whoever seemed like the easiest target.

Okay first I voted for TEM randomly, as instructed. So that doesn't seem suspicious to me.
Then I voted for Spitfire, because it seemed to me that he was being contrary to town strategy (voting to scumhunt) and instead using scum strategy (voting to lynch). Doesn't seem suspicious either, and how he's an easy target is not, to me, apparent.
Then I switched to you, my dear lad, because Toony told me to (sort of).
Then I voted Halmie because he was the only one to talk to, except he wasn't actually playing so ignore that.
Then I left the forum for quite a while.
When I came back, I found Siquo accusing me of lurking and such and it annoyed me, and also it seemed that he ignored my rebuttal which sounds a little scummy. So I voted him.
I have not voted anyone since.

The only person who I have voted who has been an "easy target" - having other votes - is Siquo, I think. So really, only 1/3... but if you could provide other examples I'll gladly discuss those.

Town results ARE 100% useless.

Why? You could be wrong on a townie being a townie and not a godfather, but the chances are slim. You may not know whether someone is a townie for sure, but you know that he's probably a townie (5/6, I think), and that to me is pretty useful.

I fail to see how that would be of any benefit to us.

Well, it's useful only if townie reports are useful - addressed above.

I still have a problem, guys - how can we get a decent copclaim without risking scumclaim too much?

[Cheddarius]

That was horrible, it's fixed here:

Cheddarius - The reason I have had my vote on you all game is because you were switching your vote around so much - generally to whoever seemed like the easiest target.

Okay first I voted for TEM randomly, as instructed. So that doesn't seem suspicious to me.
Then I voted for Spitfire, because it seemed to me that he was being contrary to town strategy (voting to scumhunt) and instead using scum strategy (voting to lynch). Doesn't seem suspicious either, and how he's an easy target is not, to me, apparent.
Then I switched to you, my dear lad, because Toony told me to (sort of).
Then I voted Halmie because he was the only one to talk to, except he wasn't actually playing so ignore that.
Then I left the forum for quite a while.
When I came back, I found Siquo accusing me of lurking and such and it annoyed me, and also it seemed that he ignored my rebuttal which sounds a little scummy. So I voted him.
I have not voted anyone since.

The only person who I have voted who has been an "easy target" - having other votes - is Siquo, I think. So really, only 1/3... but if you could provide other examples I'll gladly discuss those.

Town results ARE 100% useless.

Why? You could be wrong on a townie being a townie and not a godfather, but the chances are slim. You may not know whether someone is a townie for sure, but you know that he's probably a townie (5/6, I think), and that to me is pretty useful.

I fail to see how that would be of any benefit to us.

Well, it's useful only if townie reports are useful - addressed above.


I still have a problem, guys - how can we get a decent copclaim without risking scumclaim too much?

[theevilmonk]

Imma have to ask for a replacement, Mafia just doesnt intrest me anymore

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Town results ARE 100% useless.

Why? You could be wrong on a townie being a townie and not a godfather, but the chances are slim. You may not know whether someone is a townie for sure, but you know that he's probably a townie (5/6, I think), and that to me is pretty useful.

Because, getting a Town result does not clear anybody of anything. If there is a Godfather, only one person will turn up scum, so if we get a town result - well we know it's not them, great. But they could still be a godfather.

I think there are 7 people left, yes? Let's just go with that.

So say we get 6 Town results from a cop claim(not going to happen, because there hasn't been 6 nights, but bear with me). At least 5 of them have to be town, right? Well out of 7 people, 5 of them have to be town! That is why a town result is useless.

[Cheddarius]

Well, 6 town results is still useful, I think.
Suppose you have people named 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
Every person has a 5/7 chance to be clean, right?
Suppose you have a report saying that One is a townie. 5 people are townie, one person is normal scum, one person is godfather. So 6 people will turn up townie.
So now One has a 5/6 chance to be clean, which is a little better. I'm not saying that it's that much better, I'm just saying that it's not 100% useless.

And if you do get 6 results of town, you know that the remaining person is scum, which is definitely not useless.

[ToonyMan]

It's day 3.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

And if you do get 6 results of town, you know that the remaining person is scum, which is definitely not useless.

Good point, you got me there. That's only through the process of elimination though; with only 2 or 3 town reads, we can't determine who the remaining scum is yet.

[Nirur Torir]

Unvote.

Skimming through, I am once again suspicious of Cheddarius. It feels very much like you're trying to derail the conversation away from scum-hunting. The code thing was strange, pointless, and off-topic, yet you were encouraging us to try to waste time with it. Why?

Now this whole cop thing. Throughout this day, you've been obsessed with the cop for some reason. Are you trying to oust the cop so you can NK him tonight? You've been suspicious, so IF there is a cop, you've got a good chance of having been investigated. Since the cop hasn't claimed yet, it's safe to say that you'd have given a town result.

Town results ARE 100% useless.

Why? You could be wrong on a townie being a townie and not a godfather, but the chances are slim. You may not know whether someone is a townie for sure, but you know that he's probably a townie (5/6, I think), and that to me is pretty useful.

You're also claiming that even a town result is useful. In your eyes. Which, to me, indicates that you're a godfather. A godfather would love to be confirmed as townie by the cop.

[Nirur Torir]

Looks like I'm the only one who's voted today. Day ends in around 30 hours.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Looks like I'm the only one who's voted today. Day ends in around 30 hours.

SCUM!!! YOU WANT A MIS-LYNCH!

No.

I'll vote for MagmaDeath, because he still hasn't shown up and I want to talk to him.

[Nirur Torir]

Sarcasm, no matter how obvious, is a dangerous game in forum Mafia.

At least, I hope that was sarcasm.

[ToonyMan]

Sarcasm is WIFOM.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Okay, I take that back, then.