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[Siquo]

Exactly, the whole "I think they think I think that they think that I think that they suspect that I know they are scum" sequence can get pretty out of hand. Logic may not be the best scumfinder. However, I'm still convinced RNG fell for the "damn that's a good scumhunting idea I'd better get everyone to vote for him"-trap and is scum.

[Cheddarius]

Yes, that seems fairly probable, if not certain.

[Halmie]

If I can do some noob ICing?

What cheddarius did there is called WIFOM, it stands for Wine in Front of Me, which is pretty much an infinte of: he wouldn't do that or is that what he wants me to think, or is that what he wants me to think. Avoid this.

Cheddarius is only being defensive at this time, BAD MOVE.

Siquo isn't either. It looks like your having a nice little chat. And the whole "you aren't off my lists" thing is a bit :/

The more you do that the less time you get to scumhunt. That was the main thing that got both Rooster and Monk lynched in BM5

[Cheddarius]

Halmie! I am totes agressing on Alsark! I talked about it at least three times already, I'm not being defensive. Geez.
And nobody is friggin' here anyway, so it's not like we could scumhunt. We might as well have a nice little talk, the game isn't everything.

[Nirur Torir]

You dug a nice deep pit for yourself with that WIFOM while I was sleeping, scum. Now, why are you hiding what your pokemon type is, unless you feel that it is a scum-type, and will give you away?

Second:

Yes, that seems fairly probable, if not certain. [that RNG is scum]

You feel that it is almost certain that RNG is scum, yet are not voting for him. What is your explanation for this?

[Siquo]

NOOB QUESTION ALERT!

And this is a beginners mafia so I'm not afraid to ask:

If I can do some noob ICing?

Sure. What is IC'ing?

What cheddarius did there is called WIFOM, it stands for Wine in Front of Me, which is pretty much an infinte of,

Sure. What is Wine In Front Of Me where there is an infinte of?

And the whole "you aren't off my lists" thing is a bit :/

Oh yes, it's very much :/

... What is :/?

[Nirur Torir]

I cannot answer that question, but I have something to point out:

FoS. The Finger of Suspicion is used to say "I'm onto your scumminess, but am voting somebody else right now." On these forums, it is usually somebody's name colored blue. It probably would have been better to use then "You aren't off my lists." Especially since everybody should remain on your list of possibly-scum until you have a very good reason for thinking they're town.

At Cheddarius: Idle conversation may distract from scumhunting. If nobody is posting, but is marked as online, feel free to jab them with a question or something.

[Halmie]

NOOB QUESTION ALERT!

And this is a beginners mafia so I'm not afraid to ask:

If I can do some noob ICing?

Sure. What is IC'ing?

It is giving advice I guess.

What cheddarius did there is called WIFOM, it stands for Wine in Front of Me, which is pretty much an infinte of,

Sure. What is Wine In Front Of Me where there is an infinte of?

Sorry I typed that in a rush. It is basicly where you think hmmmm... He is scum becuase he did blah blah. And then think: but what if thats what they want me to think? But what if that's what they want me to think?

Times a million.

And the whole "you aren't off my lists" thing is a bit :/

Oh yes, it's very much :/

... What is :/?

I meant to say, it is slightly scummish becuase you are applying a sort of fake pressure. You can say its pressure but really it's not. You should be pushing. Say: Why did you do that? If you are unsatisfied with the answer follow it up.

Halmie! I am totes agressing on Alsark! I talked about it at least three times already, I'm not being defensive. Geez.
And nobody is friggin' here anyway, so it's not like we could scumhunt. We might as well have a nice little talk, the game isn't everything.

Yes, you can but if you dont do scum hunting at the same time it WILL draw attention. It is active lurking and is fine in small amounts. But be careful lest you get a reputation like Orgs.

[Cheddarius]

You feel that it is almost certain that RNG is scum, yet are not voting for him. What is your explanation for this?

I didn't say almost certain. I said fairly probable. I don't mean it's over 50%, just that it's a good lead; but I still want to take a look at Alsark, and clearly if I had voted him everyone would have voted me for bandwagonning. I mean, even when I'm taking the not-scummy route, I still get marked as scum; taking the scummy route would have been a death sentence. And I don't want that.

Wine in Front of Me, by the way, is named after the scene in the Princess Bride where the Sicilian keeps on switching back and forth because he doesn't know which wineglass is poisoned. He says that the Man in Black climbed the cliffs; therefore he must be strong and overconfident, and poisoned his own glass, trusting his strength to save him. But he bested the swordsman, so he must have studied, so he knows that man is mortal, so he must have put it in the other glass - and so on.

[Nirur Torir]

You dug a nice deep pit for yourself with that WIFOM while I was sleeping, scum. Now, why are you hiding what your pokemon type is, unless you feel that it is a scum-type, and will give you away?

Second:

Yes, that seems fairly probable, if not certain. [that RNG is scum]

You feel that it is almost certain that RNG is scum, yet are not voting for him. What is your explanation for this?

Okay, maybe we just have different definitions of "if not certain." Your acting scummy by trying not to be scummy by the way.

Now answer the first question. Bolded for convenience.

[Cheddarius]

I'm a venonat.

[Cheddarius]

By the way, you say I act scummy by trying not to be scummy. Do I have a choice? If I don't bandwagon, then I'm acting scummy; if I do, I'm acting even more scummy. My only recourse would have been to lie, and pretend that I didn't agree with Siquo. Do you see my dilemma here?

[Nirur Torir]

It's not your actions. It's your reactions.

Joining a bandwagon is a scummy thing to do, yes ... but if nobody joined one, then nobody would get lynched. The people joining the bandwagon tend to be questioned, and their answers studied for signs of scumminess. Scumhunting.

You, on the other hand, refused to join a bandwagon, openly stating that you wanted to but didn't so you wouldn't be accused of being scum. THAT is very scummy. Joining a bandwagon is sorta scummy.

Scum want to survive, so they can get the town to kill each other. Town can afford a few deaths, and will have a few deaths, before finding the scum.

You are extremely survivalistic, even after acknowledging that townies have much less of a reason to be. This is what gives you away, scum.

[Cheddarius]

Hmmm. So... now what? I get lynched, or is there some way I can redeem myself and reduce my scumminess?

[Siquo]

I cannot answer that question, but I have something to point out:

FoS. The Finger of Suspicion is used to say "I'm onto your scumminess, but am voting somebody else right now." On these forums, it is usually somebody's name colored blue. It probably would have been better to use then "You aren't off my lists." Especially since everybody should remain on your list of possibly-scum until you have a very good reason for thinking they're town.

Will do that from now on. Thanks all for answering my noobish questions
Cheddarius, right now you're swimming in quicksand: all posts you made so far made you sink deeper into scumminess.