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Author Topic: BM7: PokeBox #058: Town Victory!  (Read 44928 times)

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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2009, 11:53:51 pm »

Yeah, the hissing is getting annoying. And I think it was supposed to be buzzing, and only occasionally. ::twitch:: You're gonna have to cut it out.

Listening to good advice is good.

Here's a couple of hints:
Never give up, EVER. Either you are scum, and thus want to live (so you want someone else lynched) or you are town, in which case you know you aren't scum, and thus don't want the town to make a mistake! All townies, remember that key difference, even though the goal is the same - get the town to lynch someone else. The townie doesn't try to "survive", they try to convince the town to lynch someone with a better chance of being scum instead.

Anyways, just because you look scummy now doesn't mean someone else won't look more scummy tomorrow. Look at BM6 - Rooster is still around, despite seeming to be sure he was going to get lynched earlier on.

About true RVS vs. Strategic RVS:
Personally, I don't worry too much about how you I go about my random voting - imo, true randomness or systematic randomness (first person on list that hasn't been voted for yet is actually a rule of thumb for me) isn't that important, as long as you are out there hunting. Generally, you want to hit someone who isn't already being pressed, until someone actually starts seeming scummy to you.
ToonyMan - do you actually think true randomness is that big a deal during RVS? I always saw it as more of an opportunity to jump around and get a feel for people than making any directly random decision - it was always as whim against a person who was still null on tells. Is that really a terrible way to do it?

Oh, and:
theevilmonk begins to feel very sleepy. Suddenly, he shakes himself awake. He feels more rested, but it appears he fell asleep for a while. He wonders how that could have happened.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2009, 11:59:31 pm »

Okay, I'll stop hissing then. Sorry.
I'm not giving up; I am trying to scumhunt, like Toony told me to do. I admit that I will almost certainly die, but I am still trying not to. I really would rather not die, I tell you this, and I will try to stay alive. But I most likely will nonetheless.

TEM? Feels like some sort of Alakazam-type thing.
Snorlax?
Um... isn't there some sort of sleep attack.. I don't know, though.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2009, 11:59:58 pm »

Oh, and sorry if I'm playing badly; this is my first Mafia game here and I'll try to play normally next time.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2009, 12:20:22 am »

A quick note: Along with being a co-mod, I am also a co-town IC.  Though I'm currently a third wheel since both the mod and IC are doing so well.

I can say this: 

The more you feel like you are going to die, the more you should focus on attack rather than defense.  That is, hunt hard and fast against the people you believe are scum.  The closer you are to dying, the harder you should push.  The goal should be that, should you die, you'll leave a solid trail towards the real scum.

Thus don't give up.  More than that.  If you notice that all you've been doing is defense then start your attack.  It's ok to do both.  If you find you can't defend yourself anymore, then go ALL out attack. 

As far as random voting goes, I see it in this order:

Best to vote for someone you know is scum, Great to vote for someone you highly suspect, Good and fine to vote for someone you suspect or wish to apply pressure to, Ok to vote for someone randomly, Horrible to not vote at all.

So if you can find any reason, ANY REASON AT ALL (even stupid ones) to vote for someone, that's better than literally being random.  However, even using random.org is better than just not voting and sitting around. 

Just know, though, that you should search for better vote targets (or to turn your random vote until a real reasoned vote) ASAP.

At this point, though, most of you should have random or, at best, minimum reasons to vote for someone.. but vote you SHOULD, and hunt for those real reasons.. they are out there and the faster you find them the better your town will be.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2009, 12:25:34 am »

Oh, and about 'cute actions'.

Being light hearted, especially now when the game has started is fine.  However, know that, eventually, you will need to do what you must as Town.

And for town, there is only one thing to do.. just one: To find and kill scum.

In the end, once the lightheartedness has passed, everything you do, everything you are, should be on the hunt.  Even your defense should, in fact, be just a means to read those that accuse you (i.e. those with good reasons vs scum who just want someone dead).  You can ask questions, post accusations, act weird, say random things.. but whatever you do, it should be to catch scum somehow. 

So look at what you are doing.. is it aimed at trying to catch scum somehow?  If so, then great.  If not, then it might be time to start doing just that.

Btw, saying "ok, I'll start" is NOT scumhunting.  Don't say you WILl hunt.. DO hunt instead.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2009, 12:49:04 am »

I was going to vote spitfire, as he seemed eager to lynch someone. However, when I said that, everyone tried to lynch me. If I die, I lose, right? Surviving with a chance of winning is better than dying. Thus I vote for a poorer reason; that Alsark was lurking.

Also, I did start. I accused Alsark and questioned him, did I not? I am trying to see if he is scum, thus trying to catch scum.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2009, 01:06:27 am »

Actually, thats a good question - You do NOT lose if you die. If you are town, you win if town wins. If scum, you win if scum wins. It's a team victory or nothing. Only in more advanced games are there variations on that basic rule.

You can win very much still win if you are dead.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2009, 01:19:12 am »

Holy smokes! I was sorely mistaken.
A thousand apologies, I was acting on a different play strategy.

Anyway, I'm gonna stay with Alsark because he's lurking.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2009, 05:17:39 am »

Hmm, doubting between Cheddarius and Randomnumbergenerator here.


But to answer the questions, and this is now hypothetical, sorry about breaking the rule earlier, we're not going to do this: When the round-robin was complete, we would all post the name we were given, but I would not tell anyone that until the round was complete. The scum would be exposed if they changed the name :)

But there was another thing to this.
Why do I vote RNG? Because I actually had an almost game-breaking good idea even if it was illegal. I scared the scum. The scum wants to get rid of me. So even if I die tonight, I'll take one of them with me. RNG, logic dictates: you're scum.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2009, 05:25:37 am »

Yes, but what if, for example, I am the scum, and I kill you tonight in order to frame RNG?
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2009, 05:38:01 am »

How will you frame him? Me dying (dieing? dyeing?) at night is no real proof of my accusation being right. Or wrong. Everything could be a spoof or a hoax.

Your "what if for example" came quickly and naturally, though. You're still on my list as well. Also, you post and talk a LOT here. People with things to hide usually talk a lot.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2009, 05:44:18 am »

I post and talk a lot everywhere, neh? Just look at any place I inhabit. I have a lot of free time.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2009, 05:51:30 am »

In fact if you look at profile, I have 20 posts per day, while you have less than three, and GlyphGryph barely breaks 1. (Not that this is a bad thing, mind you. It means you guys have lives).
Additionally I misunderstood your plan; I thought you would only "take down a scum with you" if you did in fact die. However, now I understand that you plan to take down a scum, and possibly die.
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2009, 05:53:30 am »

Well, that is the inevitable fate of a towny, isn't it? Take down as many scum as you can, while you have a chance of dying every night. And the better scumhunter you are, the more likely you are to die at night...
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Re: Begginers Mafia 7: Pokemon Box #058: Day 1, A Suprising Turn of Events...
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2009, 05:55:16 am »

Indeed, indeed. I remember another game, where some people got so good Mafia would kill them firsthand; which means that if they didn't die, they were the Mafia. But wait! Then the Mafia started not killing them, so that the people would lynch them... it was pretty fun.
This looks to be fun, too. I'm having fun.
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