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Author Topic: BM7: PokeBox #058: Town Victory!  (Read 44626 times)

Cheddarius

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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...Reveals a Shadow Still Hidden.
« Reply #300 on: January 06, 2010, 09:46:27 pm »

The code: I thought I might have a little fun. I like codes.
Forgetting about it: I just forgot. I didn't suddenly have an onslaught of selective amnesia or whatnot, if that's what you mean.
Before day 3: I was having a spot of trouble. If you'll take a look at my posts, it's easy to see that I was posting very little in all my games.
Fourth thing: I didn't think of that. If we do find the scum today, though, you're right; I'll live.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #301 on: January 07, 2010, 03:10:20 am »

Shift of suspision?
I still think he's a cop, but a lynch on him would make us SURE of that, elimination the WIFOM at lylo.  Nirur Torir you are STILL the scummiest to me, and
I'm wondering why you aren't dead, as you've "Scumhunted" FAR more than Alsark.
Confirming a cop would probably be the best thing to do today, but I'm also willing to lynch you, if you keep spewing WIFOM.
Why do you believe they saw you as more of a threat?
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #302 on: January 07, 2010, 09:54:02 am »

By the way, next deadline is currently Friday Night, 11pm EST

I thought I should explain  how I thought extensions worked as well, though apparently I was wrong.

My version: The same player can not extend twice in a row, there needs to be another player extending. For fairness we'll play this way the rest of the game.

Real version: Players get unlimited extensions, but other players can object.. This is apparently how it works in games I haven't screwed up.

Also, Vector's request has been heard, and the thread has been renamed.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #303 on: January 07, 2010, 09:57:49 am »

Also,
MagmaDeath has used Splash! Nirur Torir is now soaked!
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #304 on: January 07, 2010, 10:36:28 am »

I am a cop. Spitfire, theevilmonk, and magmadeath were all shown to me, in that order, as town.
Now the town has to decide if Cheddarius is fakeclaiming. If he isn't Nirur Torir is scum becuase Ched said he cleared the other 3. So if there is only one mafia role.

Lynch Ched who shouldn't mind becuase a townie win is a win for every townie dead or alive. If he flips cop lynch Nirur.

If Ched is vanilla townie fakclaiming cop. Shame on him. Looks like the town has this in the bag.

I'm pretty sure there is only one role per team each game. That has been the case in previous mafia's. Glyph. Is there more than one role per team possible in BM? Or are you not inclined to tell us?
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #305 on: January 07, 2010, 11:10:44 am »

Shift of suspision?
I still think he's a cop, but a lynch on him would make us SURE of that, elimination the WIFOM at lylo.  Nirur Torir you are STILL the scummiest to me, and
I'm wondering why you aren't dead, as you've "Scumhunted" FAR more than Alsark.
I suspect it's tied to my attack on Cheddarius. Either he is the scum, and didn't want the suspicion of killing me while I was attacking him, or the scum was hoping I would continue trying to destroy him. There's always tonight for them to kill me.

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Confirming a cop would probably be the best thing to do today, but I'm also willing to lynch you, if you keep spewing WIFOM.
WIFOM? You mean answering your question about trying to analyze the Mafia's actions? I really love the way you asked a question that begs a WIFOMy answer, then accuse me of spewing WIFOM.

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Why do you believe they saw you as more of a threat?
Please quote where I said I was more of a threat.

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Finally, explain why you're convinced that you won't find the scum by regular scumhunting today.
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I didn't think of that. If we do find the scum today, though, you're right; I'll live.
You misread the question. Why did you bring you not dying into it?
I do find it interesting that you just so happened to investigate all living players besides myself. Let me guess: You get me killed by process of elimination, then claim there was a godfather to try to keep yourself alive at LyLo. That's a very dangerous game.

I strongly suspect that the scum is either Cheddarius or Magma.

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Halmie, there are different rules in this one. There might only be one power role per team, but if we assume that and there are more then that, then we hurt ourselves.

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MagmaDeath has used Splash! Nirur Torir is now soaked!
That's not nice. It's cold in here.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #306 on: January 07, 2010, 02:42:34 pm »

Shift of suspision?
I still think he's a cop, but a lynch on him would make us SURE of that, elimination the WIFOM at lylo.  Nirur Torir you are STILL the scummiest to me, and
I'm wondering why you aren't dead, as you've "Scumhunted" FAR more than Alsark.
I suspect it's tied to my attack on Cheddarius. Either he is the scum, and didn't want the suspicion of killing me while I was attacking him, or the scum was hoping I would continue trying to destroy him. There's always tonight for them to kill me.
So you're saying that killing you would lay suspesion on him?
 
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Confirming a cop would probably be the best thing to do today, but I'm also willing to lynch you, if you keep spewing WIFOM.
WIFOM? You mean answering your question about trying to analyze the Mafia's actions? I really love the way you asked a question that begs a WIFOMy answer, then accuse me of spewing WIFOM.
4) They were counting on me to continue attacking him. If he flips town, then it would be easy to point a finger at me for going after the obvious cop.
 
So you continue to go after him right after saying this?
You seem to know he will flip town.
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Why do you believe they saw you as more of a threat?
Please quote where I said I was more of a threat.
You said Alsark was more of a threat than Cheddarius, Which implys that you know there is a godfather, making the cop useless.

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Finally, explain why you're convinced that you won't find the scum by regular scumhunting today.
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I didn't think of that. If we do find the scum today, though, you're right; I'll live.
You misread the question. Why did you bring you not dying into it?
I do find it interesting that you just so happened to investigate all living players besides myself. Let me guess: You get me killed by process of elimination, then claim there was a godfather to try to keep yourself alive at LyLo. That's a very dangerous game.
Or we could lynch him TODAY, see that he is a cop, then lynch you.
 
Also, Nirur Torir, Why did RNG never lay any suspesion on you?
Is it because you are scum?
 
Cheddarius, can you break your code for us?
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #307 on: January 07, 2010, 04:18:31 pm »

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So you're saying that killing you would lay suspicion on him?
Yes. If somebody is intently attacking a scum, then the Mafia will only rarely NK that person, for fear that it would be very suspicious.

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4) They were counting on me to continue attacking him. If he flips town, then it would be easy to point a finger at me for going after the obvious cop.
 
So you continue to go after him right after saying this?
You seem to know he will flip town.
Those were hypothetical situations, with me stating what I thought the most likely possibilities were. You asked my opinions, so I gave them. Him being scum was already covered by point 1, while points 2-5 were why a not-him-scum didn't kill him. Should I have made points 6-10 with variations "on HE'S ALIVE 'CAUSE HE'S SCUM!!!1" ?

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You said Alsark was more of a threat than Cheddarius, Which implys that you know there is a godfather, making the cop useless.
If there is a godfather, then Cheddarius isn't much of a threat to him.

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Or we could lynch him TODAY, see that he is a cop, then lynch you.
I still don't like how you seem certain that he is a cop, yet want him lynched anyway. How about this: We lynch you for pushing a lynch on somebody you think is the most pro-town role out there?
You even said you trusted him yesterday.

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Also, Nirur Torir, Why did RNG never lay any suspesion on you?
Is it because you are scum?
I think it's because he didn't consider me to be an easy lynch. Skimming old posts, he hasn't voted for Cheddarius, either.

Looking back, I'm not even sure you intended to lynch him. You didn't have a good reason for voting him, perhaps you were doing a fake-fight with the intent to jump off him? Spitfire messed that up with the late bandwagon join, huh?
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #308 on: January 07, 2010, 09:35:18 pm »

Ugh FINE I'll break the code. It's a Vigenere cipher with key Pokemon.
NOBODY got the "unbreakable" cipher hint? Nobody? Nobody even bothered to Google it? You guys make me ashamed.

Also. If I die, we win. At least that's what Halmie says and he's smart, and not in the game so he's clearly not scum.
Cheddarius, why are you such a scumbag?
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #309 on: January 07, 2010, 09:39:03 pm »

Scum is behind this totally.

$100 Cheddarius is town.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #310 on: January 07, 2010, 10:09:15 pm »

I'm betting Ched is town too. But it is a comfirmed win if we lynch him then Nirur. (Please tell me if it isn't) Becuase if he is really cop we will comfirm Magma, Spit and Monk leaving only Nirur not comfirmed as townie.
If he isn't he will probably be scum and you win anyway!

Maybe lynch Torir this round. Ched voting for himself was a townie move. If he isn't scum jump on a Ched bandwagon and take him down!

Funfact: If Nirur is scum we will have the same scum team as BM5!

Scum is behind this totally.

$100 Cheddarius is town.
I'm behind it actually. If Ched is comfirmed cop then everyone else is comfirmed town except Nirur. But every post just makes Ched look more and more like a townie.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #311 on: January 07, 2010, 10:27:38 pm »

I've thought that Cheddarius was town since this day started. I was mostly trying to confirm it, and see who else decided to attack him ... But voting yourself is a pretty bad move.

Halmie, I really want to know why you think that a godfather is impossible. Maybe Dakarian never had both roles in a BM, but he also allowed multiple extension requests per person. It's folly to assume that Glyph's other rules are the same unless he confirms it. Until then, I say we continue with standard scumhunting.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #312 on: January 07, 2010, 10:32:00 pm »

Ohhhhhh dang I forgot about there being a godfather.
This is a problem.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #313 on: January 07, 2010, 10:33:18 pm »

Er. Possibly being a godfather...
But still. If there is a godfather, we don't have a surefire way to win... we go from knowing who's scum for sure (after you lynch me) to not knowing who could probably be scum, but then again, three other people who could be scum.
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Re: BM7: PokeBox #058: Day 4 : ...leads to Beginners Bastard Mafia! ^_^
« Reply #314 on: January 07, 2010, 10:50:52 pm »

I don't think you should be lynched anymore. I think I said that in my past post. There is about a 1% chance of being a godfather. My opinion: continue scum hunting with focus on Nirur but don't be too narrow minded. Everygame there has been 1 scum role and 1 town role. If they added one scum role they would have added a town role to balance it. Especially since scum have won the previous 3 (or more) games.

Also it seems like a GG thing to do to make the same team the same as BM5.

Voting for himself with my "comfirmed win" strategy showed he was town. A scum could simply not afford to do it. Nirur is counting on this godfather WIFOM to get him through.
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