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[MagmaDeath]

Well, here I am.
And doubting myself.

Randomnumbergenerator and Nirur Toir FEEL scummy to me, But I cant figure out why.
Cheddarius is seeming more and more like new town, Though logic says that he is scum.
I need to figure it out.

[MagmaDeath]

Also, we need an extension

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Okay Magma, I'm a little curious about you. First you voted for Siquo, then you voted for Cheddarius the next round, when Siquo was about to be lynched. We all know Siquo was killed then. Now you're not voting for Cheddarius, but are discounting him saying he feels like town. Care to elaborate on your reasoning a bit more?

[Nirur Torir]

Extension request. I agree that we need one. Inactivity is a primary cause of town-loss, people. Get back in here.

[GlyphGryph]

Two extension requests heard, game extended to tomorrow (Monday) night at 11pm EST.

[MagmaDeath]

Okay Magma, I'm a little curious about you. First you voted for Siquo, then you voted for Cheddarius the next round, when Siquo was about to be lynched. We all know Siquo was killed then. Now you're not voting for Cheddarius, but are discounting him saying he feels like town. Care to elaborate on your reasoning a bit more?

I'm not voting for Cheddarius, as with his obsession with cops, he probably is one.

I still have a problem, guys - how can we get a decent copclaim without risking scumclaim too much?

He's basically just stated he is a cop right there.


Nirur Torir, RandomNumberGenerator                         , why are you two convinced there is a godfather?
Is it because one of you is one?

[Cheddarius]

The code thing was strange, pointless, and off-topic, yet you were encouraging us to try to waste time with it.

Er, what code thing?

You're also claiming that even a town result is useful. In your eyes. Which, to me, indicates that you're a godfather. A godfather would love to be confirmed as townie by the cop.

It is useful. Just look at the arguments I've put forward. You can't say "Oh, a Mafia would say that 1+1=2, therefore you are Mafia", because I have shown repeatedly how a town result, although it would be pretty dumb, is not completely useless.
Though again, it lowers suspicion very little (from 5/7 town to 6/7 town) and I agree that cop should only claim if he/she gets a scum report. So the point is basically moot.

Also, RNG. Siquo flipped town, right? And you accuse Magmadeath for not voting for him? This logic seems flawed to me.

[Cheddarius]

Also, Magmadeath? I concede that I'm new, but saying who you think the cop is? Probably not a good idea ever. If you're scum, just kill me off instead of saying it, neh? If you're town, you don't want to reveal who cop is, or else he or she will die.

Unless there's some lyncher-like role where you only win if the Mafia kills your target, but that's not in this game. So still probably a bad idea, Magma, whether you're scum or town.

[ToonyMan]

I thought Cheddarius was cop from the beginning of this day.  You need to work on that Cheddarius.

[Cheddarius]

Or do I?
Cops need to be avoid being seen as cop, yes? But townies would do well to be seen as cop, and sacrifice themselves to take suspicion off the real cop, neh?

[ToonyMan]

I'm just doing this to WIFOM the scum really. 

[Cheddarius]

Yes... alas that my previous idea about listing theoretical cop reports was useless, or it would have been a great chance to do that.

[Nirur Torir]

The code thing was strange, pointless, and off-topic, yet you were encouraging us to try to waste time with it.

Er, what code thing?

You're also claiming that even a town result is useful. In your eyes. Which, to me, indicates that you're a godfather. A godfather would love to be confirmed as townie by the cop.

It is useful. Just look at the arguments I've put forward. You can't say "Oh, a Mafia would say that 1+1=2, therefore you are Mafia", because I have shown repeatedly how a town result, although it would be pretty dumb, is not completely useless.
Though again, it lowers suspicion very little (from 5/7 town to 6/7 town) and I agree that cop should only claim if he/she gets a scum report. So the point is basically moot.

Here is the code.

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Oh frig, sorry for editing

Indeed. It is... unbreakable.

Or is it?

I refuse to explain, my dear sir.

That code?

<Too lazy to break up quotes right now. See the second part of the first quote.> So, in the same sentence, you both claim that a town result is useful, but not very. After trying to prove it was useful.

I'm half convinced that you are cop, half convinced that you are trying to look like the cop. Only a newb-cop or a scum trying to act like a newb-cop would ask the sorts of questions you asked.

Okay Magma, I'm a little curious about you. First you voted for Siquo, then you voted for Cheddarius the next round, when Siquo was about to be lynched. We all know Siquo was killed then. Now you're not voting for Cheddarius, but are discounting him saying he feels like town. Care to elaborate on your reasoning a bit more?

I'm not voting for Cheddarius, as with his obsession with cops, he probably is one.

I still have a problem, guys - how can we get a decent copclaim without risking scumclaim too much?

He's basically just stated he is a cop right there.


Nirur Torir, RandomNumberGenerator                         , why are you two convinced there is a godfather?
Is it because one of you is one?

I'm paranoid. In all my Mafia games, I've tried to force myself to assume that my team has no power roles, while the enemy has all of them.
Yes, he did basically copclaim right there. I ask you, Magma: Do you trust him? Why or why not? It looks to me like you're buddying up.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

Also, RNG. Siquo flipped town, right? And you accuse Magmadeath for not voting for him? This logic seems flawed to me.

I was more interested in why both times he voted for the second most likely lynch. Remember, we've have two no-lynches so far, which has been very beneficial to the scum.

And you still haven't answered my question, MagmaDeath. I was asking why you voted for them in the first place.

Nirur Torir, RandomNumberGenerator                         , why are you two convinced there is a godfather?
Is it because one of you is one?

I'm far from convinced that there is a godfather. There is a possibility that there are no power roles in this game at all, though I doubt that. However, as long as the possibility exists, any cop read with a town result could still be a godfather.

[Halmie]

Also, RNG. Siquo flipped town, right? And you accuse Magmadeath for not voting for him? This logic seems flawed to me.

Scum know who town are and often avoid getting townie blood on their hands.