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Extended ASCII (Original)

Tilesets (Mayday DFG for instance)

Other (Custom ASCII tiles, etc.)

[Craftling]

ASCII for life! But there is something about the ACII graphics that make it more...Fun! than the graphics sets.
Also the graphic sets seem to sap some of the immersion.

[Satarus]

I started on ASCII.  Then I tried out the graphics pack, but since it used graphics for symbols in the menus and such, it became unplayable.  I wanted to see [MENU] and not shirtMENU].  I'd probably use some sort of graphics pack if that was fixed.  With too many symbols being interchangable and hardcoded, I don't see it getting fixed anytime soon.  Plus I don't even see the ASCII anymore.  I see the chair, statues, and tables now.  Of course mountain goats sometimes cause me to panic and I wondered why humans were ambushing me (elves on Unicorns).

[Bacu]

a square variant of ASCII

because I'm hardcore like that.

[Coaldiamond]

I am a fan of Plac1d's work. His graphics pack covers 95% of all vanilla creatures (only ocean critters need to be covered) and his matching tileset makes only minor adjustments to the basic ASCII appearance.

Basically, I feel like the Mayday tileset conflicts with Toady's choices for what tile should represent what object, but Plac1d's tileset matches Toady's original intent much better. Plus the pixel art in Plac1d's work is very impressive. It has a look that reminds me of Colonization or CivII.

Seriously. Check it: http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:Plac1d

[Halmie]

IMO all graphic sets and ascii pales in comparison to Biasams 24x24 tileset

People seriously think non ascii sets are unclean? This is about 10x cleaner than anything out there. Everything is well-defined. It also comes with a nice colour scheme that's easy on the eyes.

The above graphics set is OK, but looks packed together and messy to my eyes.

[ungulateman]

Yes, but that set only runs in 40d16. Plus the whole thing's a matter of opinion, in this case anyway.

[AtomicPaperclip]

I use mayday because that's what I learned with and I'm accustomed to it.

I can recognize ASCII pretty well though.

[RAM]

You can make a 24x24 A.S.C.I.I. set and it would be pretty clean too, but you don't have to...

What do transparent tiles do for you anyway?

I use the 8x8 set that I posted earlier and pump the resolution up to 1024x768 on an old, probably about 16 inch, CRT monitor and find it perfectly clear.

[Krelos]

I use graphics sets because they look nicer than ASCII.
I could certainly learn the ASCII set if I wanted to, but the same goes for Chinese or Sanskrit and the truth is, I have about as much reason to do either one. When I dream up a new critter or race, or extract one from someone elses mod, I just make a graphic for them if I cant find one somewhere. Though I think now I have all the 16x16 sets that have been released on the forum... 18 civs in my game makes it nice, but I'm getting off track.

For me it boils down to: Why would I want my game to look worse, when I could just as easily have it look better?

[bluephoenix]

For me it boils down to: Why would I want my game to look worse, when I could just as easily have it look better?

Exactly what I ask myself, people wanting the game to get finished first before graphics is understandable but here I saw someone saying (s)he would not play DF if it wasn't for ASCII and why people would want ASCII over graphics is beyond me.

[andrea]

because to some people ASCII just looks better. I am not saying that I would stop playing if I had to use , for example, mayday's pack, but surely I would enjoy the game much less because to me it looks much worse. All the graphic tilesets I have seen are very heavy on my eyes, while ASCII is much cleaner.
just a matter f opinion, some people really like ASCII, and for them it doesn't make game worse but rather better.

[Krelos]

All the graphic tilesets I have seen are very heavy on my eyes

I can certainly understand that, the mayday set that uses background transparencies makes my eyes ache so I have to use the one without.

[Deon]

I don't see a "mayday is very heavy" as an argument. Mayday's tileset is one of hundreds so if you can't find a set which you like you're just too lazy . Curses tiles are for those who want to jump in the game quick, and it's ok.

[RAM]

Well if you are going to tell people to find and download/create a set that works for them then you need a default. And giving up on graphics makes it more accepting of different setups and easier to identify different entities on the screen. You can include a few tilesets and open up a dialogue from the configuration and the first time the game is run with examples of different sets and the option to apply your choice of them.

D.F. is tile-based, A.S.C.I.I. is better for identifying individual tiles. If you 'get' A.S.C.I.I. then it will be easier to work with. If you don't 'get' it(which really doesn't reflect badly on someone) or want to see a picture of a fort when you play the game, then you can make the sacrifice and use a graphical set...

[andrea]

if you can't find a set which you like you're just too lazy

I found a tileset I like, it is the default one. Is it really so hard to accept I just LIKE it? not silently accept, I LIKE it.
I understand that there are many different tilesets to download, I like some more than other, but I haven't seen one yet who makes me want to change.