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[JanusTwoface]

Right now I'm most suspicious of Pandarsenic and JanusTwoFace. Neither of you voted for dorf, despite both of you finding his behavior scummy. Janus is especially suspect, since you noted that there was a good chance that he was scum instead of newb doc but didn't vote. Could be because it wasn't necessary, could be that you knew he'd flip town. You two have also been in a huge fight all day 1 to the exclusion of really looking at anyone else. I find this very suspicious.

I've already explained why I didn't vote for dorf.  Just as you've already tried to explain why you were the 5th (and final) vote on the same new doc claim.  Apparently you think me way of doing things is scummy and I think the way you did things is scummy.

So far as this 'big argument', most of my argument was with Leafsnail rather than Pandarsenic.  And I like to think that I've branched out somewhat today in accusing basically everyone as scum.  (See replay #99)

Zai and Mephansteras both said they'd look into things

I never said I'd do that, Janus.

...Zai...

Anything to say?

Not tonight. Tomorrow, maybe.

Granted, it was only a maybe, but the complete lack of any sort of useful content is just as problematic.  And then you FoS me, which seems to be the popular thing to do these days.  Looks like a bandwagon from someone that doesn't want to commit to.

Since we have until 11pm to actually decide on someone and it's looking unlikely that anyone believes me about Leafsnail, I'll unvote.  I'll think about who to vote and be back later.

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, I saw your reasoning. I just don't like it much.

I still want to hear from Eduren more, he hasn't given us much content at all this game.

[Pandarsenic]

It's pretty obvious I felt dorf was more newblet than scum by the end.

[JanusTwoface]

It's pretty obvious I felt dorf was more newblet than scum by the end.

How is this obvious to anyone but you?  You didn't post at all between his 'bandwagon post' and the end of the day that I can tell.

[Eduren]

I was waiting for Zai to acknowledge me but it doesn't look like he'll do that anytime soon.


Dirtybirdy's absence worries me.

[JanusTwoface]

Well, I'd obviously prefer not to be lynched myself.  That doesn't help anyone, least of all me.  Right now, it looks like I'm going to get lynched mostly by inactivity, which really sucks.

Zai, Mephansteras, dirtybirdy, Eduren?  Any of have someone scummy enough to lynch that isn't me?  At least ideas?

Leafsnail / Pandarsenic, I don't think you'll be around before the deadline and it seems like you're leading everyone around anyways.  But if you have anyone other than me you'd like to lynch, I'd like to consider it.

I'll be online until the deadline (in about 2 hours).

Behold the power of inactivity...

[Eduren]

Zai, Mephansteras, dirtybirdy, Eduren?  Any of have someone scummy enough to lynch that isn't me?  At least ideas?

Nobody even listens to me, do they? I want to lynch Zai, I have since the start of the day.

[dirtybirdy]

Alas I have returned.  Between shopping & playing around with my new yoga ball. I have to remember to save up some energy for this game. Pls forgive me. 

Hmm... well... one thing is for sure.  Playing mafia online is a heck of a lot different that real life mafia.  Perhaps it's because I don't really know anyone truely.  To me it's like a random pick everytime you play.  But then again, this is me thinking aloud. I'll stop thinking aloud now. Maybe? Well... I dunno...I'm torn at the moment.

I've got two people in mind as possible scum. Which is never a good thing to pick scum teams. Scum teams are inevitable wrong by nature. Nonetheless... I'm most suspcious of Zai because of the way he/she tip toed around answering Eduren legitimate claim by simply laughing it off for a couple of days. I think that's pretty scummy. Also, when reconfronted with this...umm.. all that was done was a "cloud of confusion" which I think is another scum tell. So, in conclusion... I vote for Zai.

[JanusTwoface]

I was thinking that there are more scummy people than Zai, so I went back to look at what he's posted.

Spoiler: Zai's content (click to show/hide)

Day 1:
Reply #11: Funny talk random vote against DirtyBirdy
Reply #14: Comment that doesn't actually make much senes now that I look at it
Reply #21: Angry post about being angry
Reply #19: Comment about Pandarsenic's joke
Reply #23: A basically useful post 'failscumming' dorf, but no vote
Reply #44: Defense against Pandarsenic's buddying claim
Reply #53: Defense against overdefending Pandarsenic
Reply #56: Sarcastic against webadict
Reply #59: Back and forth with Webadict begins
Reply #61: Continued
Reply #64: Continued
Reply #23: Attack against dorf again
Reply #73: Asks if dorf's bandwagon comment is a joke, never posts again in day 1

Day 2:
Reply #88: lolwut post
Reply #93: maybe post tomorrow
Reply #98: Wazoo extension (about 30 minutes after it wouldhave been useful)
Reply #104: I call him on maybe post tomorrow, he FoS's me

Yeah.  That's it.  So basically, he's posting a decent amount during RVS.  Then he votes dorf just before that whole bandwagon hullabaloo and never shows up again.  That's problematic in itself, because he voted early enough to not look suspicious and could just ride out the lynch without looking suspicious.  Not damning in and of itself, but it does have potential.

Then on day 2 he's posted absolutely nothing of content.  Eduren called him out on it and still nothing.  If he's not scum, then it's still not helping the town at all.  We still have 1 more lynch (this one) before LYLO, so at worst we're down an unhelpful scum player and at best we're down to one more scum.


Psuedo-edit:

DirtyBirdy, you're making me suspicious.  I'll give you some leeway as a newer player, but playing confused isn't much more helpful than not posting at all (which you've also been doing a fair amount).  A solid FoS to DirtyBirdy for that.  If I survive until tomorrow, you deserve further scrutiny.

(Side note: Yes, it's very different than RL Mafia.  Very much so.)

On the other hand, I'd much rather Zai lynched than myself and at least with your vote we won't tie.  vote Zai.  Thoughts, anyone that's around in the next hour?

[dakarian]

Current Vote Count:
Zai[3]: Eduren, dirtybirdy, JanusTwoface
JanusTwoface[2]: Leafsnail, Mephansteras

Not Voting: Zai, Pandarsenic

Deadline: Tuesday, 11pm EST

There is one hour remaining to the end of the day.

Sidenote: everyone (excluding Leaf who's on Vacation) has posted so we're back to full activity.

[Pandarsenic]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

WE NEED AN EXTENSION HERE.

[Zai]

Extension if we can have another. I think my addiction has been satisfied for now, so I can continue to debate my scumminess tomorrow.

Vote Zai.

Why? Because you didn't take me seriously. Web tried to apply pressure to me and you didn't take him seriously. You took neither of us seriously. You were acting way too cautious. You did not want to look at my more than scummy behavior yesterday.

If you haven't noticed, I haven't taken the game itself seriously. Damn right I didn't comment on your behavior yesterday. But neither did anybody else after that.

And do you mean to say that you were acting like you were scum on purpose? That's WIFOM in and of itself. For all we know, you're scum retconning your stupidity for a lynch on someone else.

And cautious? If I was cautious, I wouldn't have been talking with an "accent" at the beginning of yesterday. If I was cautious, I would have kept the "accent" going after the first several posts using it; inconsistency is bad. If I was cautious, I wouldn't have ignored the game on Day 2 until now.

I've got two people in mind as possible scum.

Then why do you only mention one, dirtybirdy? If you have suspicions as town, you better fucking well tell 'em before you get offed in the night.

Also, when reconfronted with this...umm.. all that was done was a "cloud of confusion" which I think is another scum tell. So, in conclusion... I vote for Zai.

I have no idea what you mean by a "cloud of confusion," but I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit.  There's a few things in this game you could call me scum for, but that's not one of 'em. You're acting more confused than I have.

[Eduren]

Zai. Since you are close to lynch, do you mind telling us your suspicions? That way, if you really are town, you'll have done something today.

Otherwise, that bandwagon formed entirely too quickly for my tastes but the remedy is Extension if we can.

[Pandarsenic]

We are NOT instantbandwagoning Zai.

JanusTwoFace, I seem to recall you being scum? And what's this, third vote on Zai for the quickwagon?

I'd rather force NL than quicklynch a townie. Get your goddamn extension requests in. Everyone.

[dakarian]

3 extensions.  0 objections.  Extension granted.


New deadline: wednesday 11pm EST