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[Vector]

Dakarian, what are your reads on dorf and inteuniso?

[RedWarrior0]

Here is the ToonyMan role PM:

You thought you took his slot. You were wrong. And you really wish you weren't. Now you have to take the lynch but survive the game. I really may have made this role to fuck with you. Good Luck

Slot #8
Win Condition: Lynched, Survivor
Abilities: none
Effects: tootownie
Revive Condition: anytime
Revive Effects:
Gain Effect superscummy
Lose Revive Condition
Lose Effect tootownie

[Leafsnail]

Well, he was action immune (other than eradicate) so I guess he wouldn't have to worry about NKs.  Eh, whatever.

[dakarian]

Haven't seen anything wrong with Dorf so far. 

Ino throws newtells but has a decent recovery.  He's on 'wait and see'.  I believe he can be read (unlike normal newbies which are flatly NOT readable) though.

[Pandarsenic]

I'm being somewhat wishy-washy, which I know is bad, because I operate mostly on feeling rather than being able to point out things and go "oh, that's scummy" (except retrospectively). I feel like something is wrong about Leafsnail in the Leaf-Dak fight, but on a conscious level I think it's stupid and I'm stupid for thinking it. So I'm torn, and I don't know what to do. I should pursue it, or I should look at people I watched less closely. But I can't shake the feeling of Leafy's initial scuminess despite that I have no logical grounding for it.

[dakarian]

Confusion, regret, noted.

You can't find someone to go after because everyone looks town to you and it's much harder to strike as someone when you already know their alignment.

[Pandarsenic]

How do you "know" Leafsnail is town?

[dakarian]

'everyone looks town to you' does not equal 'everyone looks town to me' scum.

I don't know if Leafsnail is town, scum, or third party.  I just don't have anything on him though I now know a bit about him.

Though you're still being passive about it, if you're actually trying to focus on me now.  Declare what's on your mind if you want to accuse me of something.

[Pandarsenic]

Confusion, regret, noted.

You can't find someone to go after because everyone looks town to you and it's much harder to strike as someone when you already know their alignment.

I feel Leafy is scummy but have no logical grounding. You're implying that I am scum and that I know Leafsnail is town and I'm being inconsistent about my accusations because, as we all know, I'm a terrible scum player. However, this means you are saying that because you supposedly think me scum, you by extension think Leafsnail is town. Yes?

[Vector]

Yeah, no.  Either this is a townfight going on, or Dakarian is scum... and I'm sticking with "dakarian is scum," thanks muchly.  Go die, hey?

[dakarian]

@Pandar

Not at all.

I'm implying that you are scum who ended up being too passive in RVS-not exactly failscum to do- and, once pushed, haven't been able to string up a convincing argument to make you look town.  I don't do scumteams so I'm not going to read whether Leaf is town or scum.  He'll show himself on his own terms. 

You, however, have been too passive, and too reactionary, and your attempt to claim 'you're too good at being scum to be caught so easily' is just Self-meta.

@Vector

Grounds?

[Pandarsenic]

I'm not calling myself too good at scum to be caught so easily, but thanks.

You're still wrong though.

[dorf]

Can we get more input from other guys? Mr.Person, inteuniso, Zai?

Mr.Person was sort of active and aggressive before, but now he is  distanced again.
inteuniso is a newbie, from what I've seen, but he should talk more, right?
Zai is sick. Would a replacement be uncommon, at this point?


Well.. I might as well give my thoughts on other players.
Pandarsenic is not changing tactics and remains passive, defensive and ever so scummy. Actually, 'defensive' might not be the proper word anymore. 'Trying to shake off the accusations against him' might suit better now. Your passiveness will kill you.

dakarian certainly acts useful and is an active scumhunter, so that's good, right? Of course, one might argue that he's overdoing, but I'm not sure. He seems to be talking just the right amount and saying just the right things.

Leafsnail was true to his word and eradicated TM. Btw, does this mean he's either 3rd party or town now? I'm trying to figure out, if RW0 would, essentially, give the Mafia ability to kill at night AND day, simultaneously. But since we can revive, this might not be so black and white, after all.

Vector was posting some filler, but he then pressured inteuniso and is now on dakarian.
Though, I'm not sure how serious he is about dakarian, since he's asking for his opinion.

Dakarian, what are your reads on dorf and inteuniso?

And as far as I've seen, he never backed up his accusations, he only said "Dakarian is scum" twice or thrice.
So yeah, what are your grounds, Vector?

[inteuniso]

Yes, I haven't talked in a while. Blame schoolwork.

Mr. Person has always been suspicious to me.

I didn't comment on the big fight earlier because I saw no reason to. A bit self preserving, yeah, but at this point, I would recommend dropping it (unless you think one side of the fight is scum, then continue). Over half the players need interrogation. I would myself, but Leafsnail's posed a good set of questions and, I care most about ToonyMan right now.

"Caring most" about ToonyMan, and letting Leafsnail scumhunt without Mr. Person helping out.

Scum much?

[RedWarrior0]

The day will end when I get access to a real computer if there are no requests for extension.