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What type of game should I add?

One Lynch 2
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RedWarrior0

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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #135 on: January 10, 2010, 10:27:19 pm »

Also, deadline has been set to tomorrow, sometime after 3 PM EST.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #136 on: January 10, 2010, 10:50:37 pm »

@Vector

You are using BYOR 2 to determine my scum Meta?  Since the game is active the only thing I can say to that right now is that it won't work. 

And, similar to a few others, you're against me for going after random things during the Random Vote. 


Sidenote: I don't know 'doodabuddy' either.  Always been afraid to ask :P.

@Pandar

If Leafsnail is surefire scum to you, why aren't you voting for him?  Is the only thing you have the 'argument' between him and me?  Does that mean we've been townish to you otherwise? 

In other words, enough of the soft "wanna be" scumhuntings.  It just makes you look passive and fearful of being wrong. 


Or is the REAL problem that you don't want to be buddying with me anymore and going after Leafsnail AND you don't want to OMGUS and thus go after me.  Instead, you want the town to pick one and help you lynch one instead perhaps.




In short:

You buddied with me, played at being confused, and, once called out, hatched up some 'hidden plan' the excuse the fact that you aren't scumhunting.  Now that the focus is on you, you prod the town towards trying to lynch who you want lynched without actually LOOKING like you want them lynched.  Just enough to seem like you're hunting, but not enough to be suspicious, and hopefully, enough to keep you in the sidelines.

To make it even shorter: You're scum, and you need to be lynched.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #137 on: January 10, 2010, 10:52:39 pm »

Leafsnail should've been red earlier. Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #138 on: January 10, 2010, 10:58:28 pm »

Now let me remind you of the rest of the questions, rephrased to focus on your target this time:

"Is the only thing you have the 'argument' he had against me?  Does that mean Leafsnail's been townish to you otherwise?"
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2010, 11:00:55 pm »

He hasn't done anything else. He shifted around a bit, argued with you a lot, and then you two suddenly broke off your fight.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #140 on: January 11, 2010, 12:39:27 am »

@Vector

You are using BYOR 2 to determine my scum Meta?  Since the game is active the only thing I can say to that right now is that it won't work. 

And, similar to a few others, you're against me for going after random things during the Random Vote. 

GAH!  I forgot that you hadn't been culted yet when you were posting in BYOR 2 >_>  I might just be picking up on a new scumhunting style or somesuch.  I'll be honest, though.  Something seems off, so I'm going to keep my vote on you until I figure out what it is.


Sidenote: I don't know 'doodabuddy' either.  Always been afraid to ask :P.

 ::)

I'm shocked!  Does no one here really know what a doodabuddy is?  Such perfidy!

As far as I know, it's a term my rural cousin made up.  Instead of saying "dude" or "buddy," you go with "doodabuddy."  Rolls off the tongue well (though it apparently also has an unfortunate tendency to inspire hilarity).

My friends actually roffled the first time they heard me say it.  One of them still can't stop snickering, more than 6 months later.
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Pandarsenic

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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #141 on: January 11, 2010, 12:40:51 am »

I figured it was just a generic term for people, rather than a term you used to call someone scum.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #142 on: January 11, 2010, 08:57:28 am »

@pandar

So let's see, you flat out said that you hate using the 'fake fight' argument because it requires you to make a scumteam during Day 1, however, excluding that, there's nothing that Leaf said all by himself that marks him scummy to you (the way he RVed, the response to my attack, the way that he attacked, the way that he stopped attacking...) as an individual, meaning everything he's done has either been pro-town or a null tell in your eyes. 

So, instead of pushing him more, prodding him for more evidence, shaking hmi to find a real scumtell, or simply continuing to watch him silently for later, you use a reason you know involves a very risky and poor quality tactic (scumteam building) to vote for him.  Bah, you do this while not even LOOKING at anyone else: I guess no one else threw scumtells either during your 'Epic Scum Watching'.


By the way, if you approved of my scumhunting technique (thus my attack on Leafsnail) what WERE you expecting for the ending?  You claim to have watched the argument closely. If you thought my argument was sound and just thought I was wrong to stop then you would've mentioned them in your reasons for Leafsnail being scum.  If you thought my reasons weren't valid at the end then did you expect me to just Tunnel him to the ground? 

Or is the answer to that question "I don't like that we didn't end up with a Leafsnail lynch so I'm trying to finish what you started and mark you scum for it?" 

Or maybe you are just looking for something, anything, to save your own hide since just about everything after the "Dak's so great" talk had to be pulled from you tooth by tooth.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #143 on: January 11, 2010, 09:33:52 am »

The inteuniso situation is weird, but it's probably just a newbtown thing. (I should know)

ToonyMan is acting odd. I wonder what his role is :x
I wish he could act more pro-town, so we'd know if he's going to be useful later on, or a threat.
My vote stays on weirdness that is TM, unless he wants to explain himself.

ToonyMan: Will you explain your current actions/statements?
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2010, 12:08:55 pm »

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3. Dakarian - jumping on random crap as in BYOR 2.  Probably SCUM
We shouldn't discuss it too much, but he was town in that game.
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The only thing I really, REALLY don't like about my present suspicion is that it necessitates a scum TEAM, which is a bad move. But the point stands.
Uhuh.  I'm the kindof scum that shouldn't be voted for then, I guess?
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He hasn't done anything else. He shifted around a bit, argued with you a lot, and then you two suddenly broke off your fight.
But if we're a scumteam, why aren't you pressuring dakarian in any way?  In fact, you aren't pressuring or asking me any questions either, just voting me and calling me scum.

Lastly: ToonyMan, I have no idea what the hell you are, but whatever it is, it isn't town.  Therefore, I am eradicating you now.  I haven't announced my ability up until now, since I thought there might be a scum daykiller, but now I have found a target I can use it (it's part of the reason I fought dakarian - I wanted to find a target for my ability before the day was out).

For that reason, unvote, vote Pandarsenic.  Pandarsenic - what makes you think it was a staged fight?  If we're a scumteam, why aren't you questioning either of us?  Have you got any opinions on anything else?
inteuniso, dorf, ToonyMan is now dead.  What are your other suspicions?
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #145 on: January 11, 2010, 01:48:01 pm »

dorf, ToonyMan is now dead.
Good enough. Unvote.

Let's analyze Pandarsenic's pro-towniness, shall we?

My laptop is fine.

And Leafsnail is scum.

What I was watching was the Dakarian/Leafy argument. I didn't want to vote Leafsnail because I was trying to observe their dynamic.

What weirds me out here is that as their argument escalates, they suddenly both disengage. Leafsnail uses a Tunnelvision-Avoidance excuse and Dakarian, perhaps, was poking at me so that when Leafy does this he can switch to someone (i.e. me).

The old argument was "Scum never fake fights" but I've seen it multiple times now. That argument is dead. Leafy and Dak poked and prodded at each other in a faux-aggressive way and then suddenly both ran in opposite directions.

The only thing I really, REALLY don't like about my present suspicion is that it necessitates a scum TEAM, which is a bad move. But the point stands.
Here was his first (delayed) "attack" on Leafsnail and dakarian.
Can anyone be anymore passive than that? I would expect an interrogation for the time he took "watching" them!
But okay... I thought, he'll probably nail them to the cross in his following posts.

So, let's check them out:

Inteuniso, you haven't played Mafia here before, have you...?
All right, so:
1) Inteuniso could be dropping scumtells or newbtells. He's basically in a state of Quantum Org right now.
2) Do not ever edit posts. It's not mentioned in this thread's OP, so I suppose you mght not have known, but don't. Just don't.
Leafsnail should've been red earlier. Thanks for reminding me.
I figured it was just a generic term for people, rather than a term you used to call someone scum.

What the hell? He added ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the game, and he even forgot to VOTE for his scum!
I don't about you guys, but if I'm under scrutiny and have to redeem myself, I sure as hell wouldn't forget to vote!
What is this, Pandarsenic? Stop being lazy and start scumhunting LIKE A MAN!
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #146 on: January 11, 2010, 01:55:00 pm »

Toonyman has had a tragic accident. His blood pressure rose 500% because I spelled his name with a lowercase 'm'. He died of a massive heart attack, something that cannot be reversed. I'll get his full role up soon. He was a Jester/Survivor, one of my cruel tricks. He had to be lynched and survive the game.
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #147 on: January 11, 2010, 02:00:27 pm »

Told you, dudes...
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #148 on: January 11, 2010, 02:45:33 pm »

Yeah man.  How the hell am I suppose to be scummy enough to be lynched once, but not scummy enough to be lynched TWICE??
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Re: Second Chance Mafia: Game Setup almost done
« Reply #149 on: January 11, 2010, 02:53:50 pm »

Yeah man.  How the hell am I suppose to be scummy enough to be lynched once, but not scummy enough to be lynched TWICE??
I would've waited until lylo, made a terrible claim (like, I dunno, vig who noned on all nights) and get lynched on that.  The mafia would then win, you'd be lynched and you'd be alive.

Anyway, that's one DISTACTION out of the way.  Now we can concentrate more on scum like Pandarsenic.
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