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Rowanas

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Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« on: December 16, 2009, 03:31:00 pm »
I did a couple good searches for this, but got nothing useful, so I'm going to go ahead and post this. if it's in the devnotes or I missed a suggestion then go ahead and shoot me down.

It would be nice to have moddable projectile speed. I would personally like to slow down crossbow and bow bolts, but increase the rates of a few modded in weapons, even going so far as to have laser pistols that could fire ammo near-instantaneously.

While we're on the subject of projectile modification, would it be unreasonable to also include accuracy modification for your projectiles? I know vanilla is supposed to be firmly in the pre-renaissance, but modified versions are going to need alterable raws for their long ranged weapons.

Yay or nay?
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 05:19:08 pm »
edit: misunderstood post
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Rowanas

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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 05:20:38 pm »
umm.. that's why it's in suggestions. As in "a place for suggesting things you would like to see in game". I know it's hardcoded, or I would've changed it by now.
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Quote from: Dutchling on April 14, 2012, 02:28:14 pm
I agree with Urist. Steampunk is like Darth Vader winning Holland's Next Top Model. It would be awesome but not something I'd like in this game.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 05:58:15 pm »
This has been suggested before, yes.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 06:55:07 pm »
Where?
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Quote from: Dutchling on April 14, 2012, 02:28:14 pm
I agree with Urist. Steampunk is like Darth Vader winning Holland's Next Top Model. It would be awesome but not something I'd like in this game.
Quote from: Bumber on November 27, 2018, 01:05:30 am
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 07:25:12 pm »
Quote from: Rowanas on December 16, 2009, 06:55:07 pm
Where?
Many threads suggest the ability or the desire to modify crossbows.

Here are a few.....

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=26444.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=19384.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=4237.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45748.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=22426.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=3024.0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=23789.0

Some of them discuss many suggestions throughout their thread...   

But your thread is just as valid...  Just you may wish to read them to further refine your idea. some are very detailed.

I believe the one at http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=23789.0 most relates to your idea.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 07:28:42 pm by profit »
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 08:24:26 pm »
By speed, do you mean rate of fire, or the rate of movement of the projectile?
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 08:27:28 pm »
Quote from: Lord Shonus on December 17, 2009, 08:24:26 pm
By speed, do you mean rate of fire, or the rate of movement of the projectile?

Way to not read his post:

Quote from: Rowanas on December 16, 2009, 03:31:00 pm
It would be nice to have moddable projectile speed. I would personally like to slow down crossbow and bow bolts, but increase the rates of a few modded in weapons (...)
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 08:34:43 pm »
Quote from: assimilateur on December 17, 2009, 08:27:28 pm
Quote from: Lord Shonus on December 17, 2009, 08:24:26 pm
By speed, do you mean rate of fire, or the rate of movement of the projectile?

Way to not read his post:

Quote from: Rowanas on December 16, 2009, 03:31:00 pm
It would be nice to have moddable projectile speed. I would personally like to slow down crossbow and bow bolts, but increase the rates of a few modded in weapons (...)

Uhhhh, call me crazy but it still isn't clear.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 08:38:01 pm »
Quote from: Rowanas on December 16, 2009, 03:31:00 pm
It would be nice to have moddable projectile speed. I would personally like to slow down crossbow and bow bolts, but increase the rates of a few modded in weapons, even going so far as to have laser pistols that could fire ammo near-instantaneously.
At first, it seems to mean the speed the projectile moves, then it references firing continuously, which suggests rate of fire. Nothing clear about it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 08:38:12 pm »
Well, I see how the second sentence of what I quoted my introduce some vagueness, but I thought the words "projectile speed" in the first sentence were pretty clear.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 08:40:29 pm »
Perhaps he means both?

I know, it sound crazy. :P
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 08:59:53 pm »
Both should be moddable. I like it though. DF's engine fits well with everything from stone age survival to swords and sorcery to steampunk and even into modern/sci-fi. The ability to control both the base rate of fire (and possibly the rate of fire gained from skill) and the projectiles speed would be awesome.

Also, controlling the base accuracy would be nice too, for things like sniping weapons vs raking weapons.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 09:02:56 pm »
I like both, but I was asking because projectile speed is no as commonly addressed.
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Re: Projectile Speed and Accuracy
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 05:10:55 am »
Yeah, I meant projectile speed. I said near-instantaneously rather than near-continuously in an attempt to clarify, but it seems I was not quite clear enough. I know projectile fire rates have been covered, but projectile speed rates haven't.

The reason I suggest this is because I would really like to equip my dwarves with slow firing weapons based on sniper rifles, with projectiles able to cross the distance as quickly as possible so that enemies don't get a chance to run off. Also because it would look way cool :D
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Quote from: Dutchling on April 14, 2012, 02:28:14 pm
I agree with Urist. Steampunk is like Darth Vader winning Holland's Next Top Model. It would be awesome but not something I'd like in this game.
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