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[Nirur Torir]

Extension please.

I'd really like to keep my vote on myself for now, but I'll unvote anyway.

[Rysith]

The votes fly, a plan takes form (with resistance, in some places) when, with a loud thump a rose gold tablet falls from the sky. Although it's been dented by it's impact, the words on it are still clear:


Onwards, Onwards! The first rule in any situation is, of course to find out how it works!

We knew we could count on each of you to try to divine or decribed the character of this place, and we have not been disappointed! Well played, good players, and may your efforts meet with success!

Unfortunately, your success may be limited for the time being. Perhaps the oft-requested vote count will explain our worries:


Alsark[0,1]
Apostolic Nihilist[1,1]
Halmie[1]
LASD[1]
Leafsnail[0,2]
Nirur Torir[0,1]
Redwarrior0[1]
Toonyman[1,2]
Zai[1]


Not as simple as it was, unfortunately. Maybe answering your questions will help you to make sense of it:

I am assuming the corrections are correct up to the post and not including the two votes afterwards just to be mean?
Not just to be mean, of course not. The tablets know only their past, not their future.

Can we get a count on the status of the rules?
There are still six of them. All six are currently active.

A votecount wouldn't hurt
We should hope not. We've got better aim and sense than to accidentally injure one of you.

Well then, until next we meet.


Like the lead tablet, the rose gold one simply sits there, looking vaguely dented and reddish.


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And, on a sadder (and less in-game) note, I'll be out of town for the next several days as my grandfather just died. While I'll try to update the thread if possible, I can't guarantee anything. The thread will remain open, and the time frozen at 35 hours to the end of day one, until I return (Sunday morning at the earliest). After that, I'll re-consider extension requests.

[Pandarsenic]

I'm fine with putting this on hold until you're return, Rysith. I think I can speak for all of us in saying I'm sorry for your loss.

[Nirur Torir]

My condolences on your loss.

Also, I think the second number might be how many people have voted for the target, but I'm tired and won't feel like verifying it until after I've slept.

Hypothesis: One rule might involve hammers. Or possibly two lynches?

[Shades]

unvote

Just to make sure everyone notices that the rules 4 and 5 which where initially not active are clearly now active following Rysith's last post.

I don't think the rules are going to be as important as working out the voting or scum hunting but it's worth noting they have changed. Possibly those two roles are vote based, or some people have day actions.

Also Extension

[Shades]

Sorry for your loss. Don't worry about updating the thread I'm sure everyone understands.

[Leafsnail]

Sorry to hear about it, Rysith.  Of course real life is more important than this game, you can take a break.

unvote

Just to make sure everyone notices that the rules 4 and 5 which where initially not active are clearly now active following Rysith's last post.

I don't think the rules are going to be as important as working out the voting or scum hunting but it's worth noting they have changed. Possibly those two roles are vote based, or some people have day actions.

Also Extension

There's an extension anyway - we don't beed another now.  However, Shades - if finding scum is more important than finding the scum, why are you making no attempt to do so?  Why have you even unvoted to not put any pressure on anyone?

[Shades]

There's an extension anyway - we don't beed another now.  However, Shades - if finding scum is more important than finding the scum, why are you making no attempt to do so?  Why have you even unvoted to not put any pressure on anyone?

There is unlikely to be much in the way of vote counts to test which was the purpose of the extension, so we do need another one.

I unvoted to test Pandarsenic theory about votes which I have already stated I think is more important than finding the scum. I have no idea what your asking with regards to the bolded text.

I will also add that voting for someone doesn't put any relevant pressure on them when your vote almost certainly doesn't count towards a lynch of them.

Finally, if you can't see my attempts to find scum with the way I have been posting you need to re-read my posts.

Why are you constantly trying to prevent the town from having a method of lynching scum?

[Leafsnail]

Yeah, that was a typo, but if you can't edit... what you gonna do?

I will also add that voting for someone doesn't put any relevant pressure on them when your vote almost certainly doesn't count towards a lynch of them.

I'm not so sure if that's the case.  Broadly speaking votes seem to count, and while this game is bastard modded, I don't think it will break the fundamental principles of mafia by having unlynchable scum.

[Shades]

Yeah, that was a typo, but if you can't edit... what you gonna do?

I will also add that voting for someone doesn't put any relevant pressure on them when your vote almost certainly doesn't count towards a lynch of them.

I'm not so sure if that's the case.  Broadly speaking votes seem to count, and while this game is bastard modded, I don't think it will break the fundamental principles of mafia by having unlynchable scum.

No-one said they were unlynchable but go and look at the votes and the final vote counts, there is enough discrepancy that I would have no confidence in being able to lynch the person I thought was scum as it currently stands.

[Leafsnail]

And yet we won't find out how it works if we don't at least try lynching scum.  I don't see why you're trying to shield the scumgroup so much.

[Shades]

And yet we won't find out how it works if we don't at least try lynching scum.  I don't see why you're trying to shield the scumgroup so much.

We won't find out by all voting at once between vote counts either, and from what I can tell you've been actively protecting the scum by arguing against trying to work out what is going on.

Nothing I've done can even be remotely constituted as shielding the scum group, I have answered your questions on why I am more concerned at the current time of trying to find out how the vote system is working, and listed the reason why day one is often a failure for scum hunting anyway, especially as we have no way to place pressure on scum and so no way to make them talk and make mistakes.

You on the other hand have gone out of your way to claim that all that is important is we vote and so let the scum win. Or didn't you notice that despite your vote on me I still have nothing in the vote count? In which case why aren't you even reading the thread?

[ToonyMan]

I saw Pandarsenic wanted an unvote so.

Unvote.  Still reading...

[ToonyMan]

Oh sorry Rysith, that's sad.

Shades is probably scum.

[Alsark]

I actually agree with Shades here. Theoretically, even if we KNEW the scum, it wouldn't do us much good if we didn't actually know how to vote for them. I'd say we need to do a fine balance between scumhunting and discovering how this system works. We cannot completely ignore scumhunting, but at the same time, we cannot just vote as though this were some normal game - because it clearly isn't.