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Truean

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Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« on: December 11, 2009, 11:24:32 pm »

I have dug every single dwarf a massive apartment as a megaproject (took 5 years, still placing furniture).

Thus I had to turn on 0 rent.

Now I can't seem to assign most of my 140 dwarves to a room. i get a very short list.

Why is this? What can I do to stop it?
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 12:26:42 am »

Once the economy is active you can no longer assign rooms to any dwarf who is not legendary. Legendary dwarves, who are immune to to the economy, can still be assigned rooms, as can nobles.

Set the rooms to be rented out. Your dwarves will each pick out a room when they get tired.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 08:49:30 am »

I used to play this way until I realized that the Dwarves get thrown out of their rooms if their cash goes negative from buying food and drinks, even though the rooms are free.  Now I play with the economy off.  A side-benefit is that I can assign rooms for the entire game.   :)
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 11:09:03 am »

Another important note if you keep the economy on: any bed you set as a room before the economy is now considered "reserved/no owner" and will not be rented out.  This is a massive pain in the butt to fix in most forts, especially since Dwarves will start moving around and picking out a new home every five damned minutes once the economy starts up.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 01:22:53 pm »

So basically, the economy only has rental of rooms rather than ownership....

Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have to turn that off.

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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 02:03:06 pm »

OK, how do I turn that off...?

I went into the init files and put "NO" under economy.... No dice it seems.

What else do I have to do?
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 04:40:08 pm »

OK, how do I turn that off...?

I went into the init files and put "NO" under economy.... No dice it seems.

What else do I have to do?
There's nothing you can do. Once the economy's started in a fort it'll keep going even if you switch it off.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 09:44:14 pm »

So the 108 large apartments I dug are pretty much unusable....

Unless I train everyone to legendary?
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 12:30:17 am »

Or you can find work for them to do. I had a fort with both rent and economy, and my haulers walked around ecstatic all the time and went shopping during their breaks because there was so much hauling, smelting, and masonry to do. There was always work waiting for a dwarf who wanted it, makes them very wealthy and very happy.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 02:40:49 am »

If all else fails, I've heard "dwarven casinos" (rooms filled with levers set to repeat) are a good way to enrich the masses. It counts as a paying job, can be done by anyone, and doesn't require the lever be actually hooked up to anything.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 09:04:08 am »

hum, which do you think would be easier:

legendary pump operators

or

casinos?
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 09:34:20 am »

Levers take fewer parts than pumps, but with everyone legendary you could assign their rooms.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 09:43:01 am »

Hm. Dwarven Make-work.
Do some jobs "make more" than others? If so, has anyone ever really don't a complete write-up of the dwarven economy? Like, how much for what jobs, how long jobs are likely to take, the points it's good to streamline, etc?

I hit the economy every once in a while and the end result always seems to be "Everyone Dies".
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2009, 09:53:55 am »

Hm. Dwarven Make-work.
Do some jobs "make more" than others? If so, has anyone ever really don't a complete write-up of the dwarven economy? Like, how much for what jobs, how long jobs are likely to take, the points it's good to streamline, etc?

I hit the economy every once in a while and the end result always seems to be "Everyone Dies".

Go to the job manager screen, and hit "w" for the wages screen.  It doesn't say anything, but the right/left cursor keys will cycle through the absolute wages.
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Re: Problem assigning rooms with 0 rent option on
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2009, 11:03:31 am »

I'm not a big fan of "make-work". You have workers, you have things that need to be done (even if it's a pointless megaproject), pay your workers to DO something. Sieges are great for creating jobs, and after your dwarves have hauled all the goblin gear inside you can order it melted, sorted, dumped, whatever. Construction is great, especially if you use blocks to speed production. I like to keep all my haulers assigned to every unskilled job, so there's always pig tails to process, wood to cut, animals to butcher (for extra bones, you can chuck them off a death tower, coincidentally creating more butcher jobs), hides to tan, crafts to haul, traps to set/reset/load, etc.

The economy isn't as bad as people say. That's not to say it isn't broken, merely that it isn't a death sentence if you know how to keep your dwarves busy.
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