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[Abyssal Squid]

I can't speak for everybody else, but my dwarves are either happy forever, or sad forever until they tantrum and make everybody else sad and everybody dies.  In any case, mood is too stable.  I'd like for sad dwarves to get over themselves more quickly, and happy dwarves should have their turn to cry.

I'm guessing the reason is because distant memories are too potent.  A dwarf who ate in a fancy dining room a month ago shrugs off the death of a friend five seconds ago, while one with a broken leg is inconsolable because she forgot about the last time she ate in that dining room (a month and one day ago). I'm hoping that making recent memories exponentially more potent than distant ones would make dwarven moods a bit more volatile.

Tantrums might have to be modified so they're a bit less destructive, but that should probably be done anyway.

[Armok]

Seconded.

[Zonhin]

quote:Originally posted by Armok:
<STRONG>Seconded.</STRONG>

Seconded.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Zonhin:
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Seconded.</STRONG>

Seconded.

[Nate879]

quote: Originally posted by Fenrir:

Seconded.

Seconded.

[penguinofhonor]

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[Chaos]

quote:Originally posted by Nate879:
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Seconded.</STRONG>

Right, seconded I guess.

[Draco18s]

Thirded.

[McDoomhammer]

This is getting silly.

Nothing new there, then.  I agree too, I have no idea how much work it would take to rebalance this, but perhaps it is a bit too easy to please all of the dwarves, even if not all of the time.

[Slappy Moose]

Seconded.

Reasoning: Dwarves who worship the god of blood shouldn't get all huffy when someone dies.

[Fieari]

I approve.  The question now becomes, what is the mechanism we'd like?  Clearly something with a decay function for getting over the thing that made them upset.  This would REPLACE the "thoughts last for a year" thing.

I'd like the various emotional happenings to work on a multivariable basis.  Initial Hit, Decay Type, and Decay Rate.

The initial hit would be obvious, and is more or less what we have now.  The thing about this system, is that a lot of the numbers we currently have can be raised, maybe doubled or tripled in some cases.  Wow!  This is an awesome door!  It might distract me for a moment or two.

Then we'd need a decay function.  I'd imagine four different types.  All at once, linear decay, quadratic, and root.

Then the last variable would determine how fast the decay happens.  When the thought drops to zero, or within a certain range of zero, the thought is forgotten and cleared from memory.

What do you think?

[Tahin]

This really needs to be looked at. Dwarves should eventually get over themselves. Also, when a fortress-wide catastrophe occurs, some defense mechanism should kick in and they should attempt to work together and act rationally, rather than try to kill each other in a fit of rage like they do now.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Tahin:
<STRONG>Also, when a fortress-wide catastrophe occurs, some defense mechanism should kick in and they should attempt to work together and act rationally, rather than try to kill each other in a fit of rage like they do now.</STRONG>

But that's part of what makes Dwarf Fortress so much fun!

[ January 21, 2008: Message edited by: Fenrir ]

[Fieari]

I disagree that they should work together by default, but friendships previously made should probably hold even when they get furious.  Let the fortress -factionalize-, with guild wars or whatever.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>But that's part of what makes Dwarf Fortress so much fun!</STRONG>

No, no it is not.  Losing is fun, but losing because there was no way to prevent it is not fun.

"Rocks fall and everyone dies, make new characters"