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ExKirby

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Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« on: December 10, 2009, 02:25:29 pm »

CGish Mafia is my new game idea. It may be crazy, but it may just work.

Basically, there will be a deck in the middle. It will contail various roles used throughout B12 Mafia history. For instance, you could pull the Infinity Voter from Vote Mafia, or webadict from KWN. There will be 150 cards in all. There will also be some "Special" roles for this game. Every card will also come with a number based on its inventivness.

At the start of the game, each player is dealt 5 cards. During the night, you can either play a card or discard a card. If you play a card that has a night ability, you will use that ability. If you play a day ability, you will have that ability for the next day.

Discards for the Mafia can be used in two ways-as an NK, or a Joker, disarming all effects targeting that player. You can't play a card AND discard at the same time, and you cna only play one card per night.

Spoiler: Card Roster (click to show/hide)

I'm gonna have a rummage around for old roles. Any ideas?
« Last Edit: December 11, 2009, 02:43:23 pm by ExKirby »
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2009, 10:08:00 am »

Ok.  so I have 5 cards and 100hp, each card is a role.

At night, I can use a card, and thus a role (meaning all roles are one-shot) or discard to gain HP.  At the end, everyone draws again so they have 5 cards.

First off, no need for the HP part of it.  All that does is attempt to give people free revives, which is much easier done by just putting roles with revive features in the deck.  Just have it so that they have to do a discard or use a role, thus discarding is a 'none' with the matter that you give up one power for another.

As for the card system itself... beyond picking and choosing to make sure we don't end up with a role that breaks the game horribly...yah that'll work.  It's a Crazy Role game and I'm always partial to it. 

Odd idea:  As found earlier, when everyone has lots of roles, mafia needs an edge above their NK to balance out.  Perhaps this:

Each Mafioso has three actions they can do:

1. play a card
2. Discard, which represents their Mafiakill (only one can do this per night)
3. Play a 'joker' which nullifies ALL CARD EFFECTS that are used on them.

Before the "OMG Joker is OVERPOWWAAAAD" there's a few issues that show up here.

- You can't Joker and Mafiakill.  Thus the person killing is vulnerable.
- Everyone that does anything to you will see their power won't work.  Investigation?  Nothing.  Vig Kill?  Nothing.  Child truth?  No answer.  Invinity voter?  1 vote.

Yes it protect you, but it paints a big huge WTF sign on your head for anyone that notices.  Of course, you could fake claim (there's a batch of roles that will do the same action).  Hope you can fake it well.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2009, 10:13:25 am »

Maybe:

1) You can choose whether to play a card
2) You MUST discard one card, every night.

With the Mafia having altered rules for that.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 11:08:39 am »

If you want old roles... hmm...

I'd volunteer LoonyMan and Cobrarsenic Taitheproficient from Bay 12.  I'd also suggest Vengeful Voter from Vote Mafia 2 (hehe, I loved that role) and some of the cool ones from TM.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 11:10:39 am »

Jack of Amazing Triumphs? XD
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 11:34:30 am »

Kashyyk:
Force another player to lurk through the next day.

Not sure how you would specify lurk though...
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 01:20:27 pm »

Kashyyk:
Force another player to lurk through the next day.

I'm going to strongly suggest that you don't do that, along with

Vector:
Be rational and analytical.  Suddenly, become enraged for seemingly no reason!  Profuse apologies.  Repeat.


There are some post/behavior restrictions that are just a bad idea.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 01:26:48 pm »

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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2009, 01:34:49 pm »

I have to say, those are some good ideas.

OK, new rule set, which I will edit in later;

Health eats the biscuit.
All town roles MUST play a card of some sort.
Only mafia can discard-as their NK or a Joker.

Oh, and when specifying a role, can you provide a link so I know it's a legal role? Thanks.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2009, 01:59:26 pm »

How about the mafia don't have the "must discard or play a card" requirement? That should give them a slight edge. They can still discard to get rid of a card, if they want, but they're free to do nothing during the night, too.

There should probably be a few cards that do game things like letting you discard your hand and draw a new hand, draw a card then discard a card, swap your hand with another player, look at another player's hand, or take a card that's been discarded. There are tons of things that can be done here, but these should be at most 10% of the deck, and even that's kinda high. Probably 5%, or 1/20, of the deck would be best.

Obviously, pretty much everything that's flipped in the various BYOR's would make great additions.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2009, 02:10:11 pm »

Cobrarsenic should be the hand-discarding one.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2009, 02:32:18 pm »

How about the mafia don't have the "must discard or play a card" requirement? That should give them a slight edge. They can still discard to get rid of a card, if they want, but they're free to do nothing during the night, too.
I am. I said all TOWN roles must play, I didn't say anthing about scum.
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There should probably be a few cards that do game things like letting you discard your hand and draw a new hand, draw a card then discard a card, swap your hand with another player, look at another player's hand, or take a card that's been discarded. There are tons of things that can be done here, but these should be at most 10% of the deck, and even that's kinda high. Probably 5%, or 1/20, of the deck would be best.
Yeah, They would be things like "Card Guru" or "Hand Destroyer"

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Obviously, pretty much everything that's flipped in the various BYOR's would make great additions.
I'll do some scouting later.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2009, 04:37:45 pm »

Cobrarsenic should be the hand-discarding one.
Eh, Cobrarsenic was basically just a combined Untouchable and One Time Lynch Immune with weird flavour if you ignore the daykill part.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2009, 10:48:43 pm »

The day kill is the most important part, really.
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Re: Card-Gameish Mafia Discussion
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 09:47:37 pm »

I would suggest Taxer from the never started Aztec Mafia.
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