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Author Topic: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?  (Read 7428 times)

KaelGotDwarves

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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 02:51:09 pm »

Obama won the prize based on people who thought he should have it. The end.

Why did the commission think he was worthy of it? Well, I suppose you can start by reading the prize text.
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Might as well keep asking why Obama has a GRAMMY. I'm not joking ;)

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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 03:07:44 pm »

And then, Watson and Crick got a nobel prize for the structure of DNA, while most of their work was practically "stolen" from Rosealin (sp?) Franklin by her lab assistant (he also got the prize), who fired X-ray beams at it while the other two people were messing around with scientific lego blocks and guess work.

To be fair to the Nobel Committee, Franklin was dead when that prize was awarded to her work.  Her assistants and colleagues accepted on her behalf with full credit to her.

For that matter, there's a pit in my stomach that makes me think at least a few people on the Committee voted for Obama out of fear they wouldn't have another chance, for abundantly obvious reasons.  Ghandi was nominated twelve times, and lost because the Committee of the day didn't want to look too political.  Ever since he was missed, sometimes they've been rather quick to reward high profile but unaccomplished figures, like Gorbachev.

As long as it's being discussed, let's think about that.  If you don't believe Barack Obama deserved the Peace Prize (and even he doesn't), name one person who in the past year has done more to promote world peace.  I'm honestly asking, I'm sure there are specific names and I'm eager to hear.  Now onto the ugly business.


Well at least I'm not the only one confused out of my noggin. I do find this a convenient place to vent, especially as I apparently have at least one ignorante "liberal"* to sling mud back at. My "fears" (a lovely term, fast becoming cliche, which is constantly flung around by "liberals") are actually simply a logical argument that Obama stands to do more harm than good.

Do you really want to do this?  First, "fear" is not pejorative, there's plenty of things in the world to be justifiably afraid of.  So let's start off easy and make that as logical a belief as you insist it is.  Identify a policy proposal that Obama has espoused that you believe will be disastrous for the nation, and then explain how and why.  Actual, concrete policies please, not notions or impressions, and you will have to back up your interpretation with cause and effect, not principles.  I have no doubt that you can this, it's the cornerstone of logical argument, I just want to see some effort.  And I'd love to hear your reactions to his acceptance speech.

Before this goes any further, take a step back and look at how you approached this.  Barack Obama was awarded a prize (whatever the other context) for promoting world peace.  You used this a platform to vent non-specific concerns about his irrelevant economic philosophy, which you also have not described.  I asked you, snidely sure but still honestly, to elaborate.  From that question, you've immediately assumed that I'm an illiterate socialist demagogue who affords you no sense of observation or human decency.

You've started a discussion with a giant chip on your shoulder and a fixation with labels.  I have no doubt that neither of us will convince each other of anything for however long this runs (such is the Internet), but you can at least grant me the courtesy of waiting for me to make an argument before assuming you know what I have to say.

God, of all the subjects I'd love to flamewar over, why did it have to be today?  I'll be honest, I owe better.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 03:13:46 pm »

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as far as economics, he wants to socialize the country, and before someone cries "scared conservative!" let's not mix terms. Don't throw ignorant cliches or classifications at me,

Aqizzar, I think you're wasting your time. He said this without any sense of irony.  ::)

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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 03:15:03 pm »

It would be a disservice to my calling and education if I didn't try.

Besides, it's a flamewar in the making.  I'm doing it for me as much as anybody.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 03:20:26 pm »

This thread shuld be preemptively locked.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2009, 03:26:09 pm »

If you don't believe Barack Obama deserved the Peace Prize, name one person who in the past year has done more to promote world peace.  I'm honestly asking, I'm sure there are specific names and I'm eager to hear.

Sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and saying, today, "A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince Al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms...the United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms."

That sounds like a lot like his predecessor's talk to me, does it not?  So in answer to your question, I would say George W Bush.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2009, 03:43:06 pm »

It would be a disservice to my calling and education if I didn't try.
That's very noble of you.

The whole concerned Christian American spouting socialism nonsense, that Democrats are all immoral, subtle "we can't call Obama a n*gger or make fun of his 'related stereotypes' without being called racist!" is more what I'd expect from freerepublic, or the KKK's website.

I'm torn whether to request a lock as well or to whip out the popcorn.

Also, let's blame Obama for being warmongering for going after the people that actually attacked us! Remember 9/11 guys? Yeah, masterminded by Bin Laden and Al Qaida in Afghanistan? Remember those guys? Remember when we caught Bin Laden and strung him up on a noose instead of invading Iraq which didn't attack us and wasting money, manpower, time, our public image abroad, and lives?

No, Afghanistan's obviously the next Vietnam and we should just quit now, all those bad muslims have escaped and we should give up! We should torture all the islams to get information on the terrorists about the next terrorist attack! Those were some good ol' days under George W. Bush, man. We sure got all those WMDs! We should have voted for McCain because he was talking about invading Iran next, I totally take back my vote for RON PAUL!
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2009, 04:03:49 pm »

Afghanistan's obviously the next Vietnam and we should just quit now, all those bad muslims have escaped and we should give up!

Let's pull out everyone's favorite word: Quagmire!

As long as it's being discussed, let's think about that.  If you don't believe Barack Obama deserved the Peace Prize (and even he doesn't), name one person who in the past year has done more to promote world peace. 

Personally, I'd like to see the Nobel prize awarded to elected heads of state that put down violent domestic terrorist factions. I couldn't name any names, but it seems to me that this sort of stuff should be given a lot more recognition.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2009, 04:22:19 pm »

The Truth about Obama.

Stuff like this makes me sad. There's nobody to be trusted from the higher ups.
Also, the memory hole. The USA is terribly drifting away from it's original ideologies and becomes the informative shithole the USSR was. Congratulations.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2009, 04:29:44 pm »

Okay... From that article:
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ZOMG ILLUMINATI. IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY.

That shit's just as mind-numbingly asinine as all the 9/11 inside job conspiracies. Blogs? Trusted sources?

honestly?
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2009, 04:31:11 pm »

Okay... From that article:
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ZOMG ILLUMINATI. IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2009, 04:41:15 pm »

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2009, 04:44:18 pm »

The reptoids were working with the Illuminati to do the World Trade Center.  The pilots were actually robots created by the Greys in cooperation with the US Government (One of the Hangar 18 Projects), and piloted by the reptoids into the buildings.  This was foretold in crop circles placed by the good aliens, but it was covered up by the Trilateral Commission.  Once the people were up in arms, George Bush (A reptoid, of course) invaded Afghanistan to obtain secret knowledge hidden in the Buddhas of Bamyan, left there by the Old Race (Older than the reptoids, possibly linked to the Bilderberg Group).  With the knowledge, the reptoids were able to remove their disguise and enslave humanity.  The Taliban, however, formed a resistance movement, obtained time travel technology (Stolen from the greys) and went back in time to destroy the Buddhas.  The truth of their heroic actions, of course, was suppressed.

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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2009, 04:47:39 pm »

WOW! And to think I was ever gullible enough to believe it was done by some pissed of Muslims!
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Re: Why did President Barack Obama receive the Nobel Peace Prize?
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2009, 04:49:04 pm »

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Obama made this plainly obvious recently when he tabbed Zbigniew Brzezinski as his top foreign policy adviser. In addition to his affiliations with the Council on Foreign Relations (as director), the Trilateral Commission, and the National Endowment for Democracy, Brzezinski was the architect of Carter’s Afghanistan policy, that it to say he is responsible for killing thousands of innocents and organizing the Afghan Arabs, later to become “al-Qaeda.” It is said David Rockefeller asked Brzezinski to create the Trilateral Commission and details were hammered out at Rockefeller’s Pocantico Hills estate outside New York City. Rockefeller later introduced the idea to the Bilderberg group in Knokke, Belgium in the spring of 1972.
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