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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #135 on: December 07, 2009, 11:00:22 pm »

And yeah, there is a general lack of reverence (?word) for marriage.
Why should there be any? It's a legal institution. What your religion chooses to bolt onto that legal institution is no concern of anyone else.

Well, it was a charter school, so it's probably some reputable source.
Unless you have experience with charter schools at an administrative level, you can't begin to grasp how unintentionally humorous this is.

Most states don't have anywhere near the restrictions on either home-schooling or charter schools as there should be to turn out decently educated kids.

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It depends, if the cold in something I ate and hasn't entered by bloodstream yet?
I am tempted to hit you with a biology textbook. You do realize that the acid in your stomach is corrosive enough to kill almost anything that gets that far, right?

Disease, for the most part, enters through areas protected by mucous membranes. Sinuses, mouth, genitals, anus. By the time it "gets to your stomach," you're already infected.
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« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2009, 11:03:05 pm »

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I am tempted to hit you with a biology textbook. You do realize that the acid in your stomach is corrosive enough to kill almost anything that gets that far, right?

No need your jumping far into a conversation. What I said makes a lot of sense in context.

Yes I do have elementary school knowledge of immunobiology.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #137 on: December 07, 2009, 11:10:40 pm »

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I am tempted to hit you with a biology textbook. You do realize that the acid in your stomach is corrosive enough to kill almost anything that gets that far, right?

No need your jumping far into a conversation. What I said makes a lot of sense in context.
I've read the thread, and I'm terribly sorry, but what you said doesn't make sense in any context, and neither does what you're trying to use it to justify. Back way up and start from first principles.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2009, 11:18:34 pm »

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I am tempted to hit you with a biology textbook. You do realize that the acid in your stomach is corrosive enough to kill almost anything that gets that far, right?

No need your jumping far into a conversation. What I said makes a lot of sense in context.
I've read the thread, and I'm terribly sorry, but what you said doesn't make sense in any context, and neither does what you're trying to use it to justify. Back way up and start from first principles.

It is perfectly in context and makes sense in context. You just need to extrapolate.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #140 on: December 07, 2009, 11:58:30 pm »

H. Pylori does infect the gastric mucose and is certainly NOT cured by a pumping.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #141 on: December 08, 2009, 12:06:25 am »

Sofia, if not upon the Bible, what is your faith based upon? I don't mean to offend, but it seems like Catholicism without the principal Catholic texts and beliefs would be kind of meaningless.

I would imagine that she believes in god, but not the Cristian representation of it.

Sounds like the most sensible way to go about it :p

Chariman Poo, thing with heliobacter though is that it is a bacterial species that lives specifically in the gut, viral transmission through the gut is pretty damn rare. Still, Neonivek, I have no idea where you could have learned that pumping is supposed to prevent infections. Poisoning, yes, but not infection (viral or bacterial).
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2009, 12:11:46 am »

The original post was about curettage supposedly being able to prevent STDs. It's the first time I hear of such notion.
I suppose that it COULD have some limited degree of success against HPV and HSV.  But it seems a rather aggresive technique, particularily if success if far from being guaranteed.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2009, 12:56:50 am »

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I am tempted to hit you with a biology textbook. You do realize that the acid in your stomach is corrosive enough to kill almost anything that gets that far, right?

No need your jumping far into a conversation. What I said makes a lot of sense in context.
I've read the thread, and I'm terribly sorry, but what you said doesn't make sense in any context, and neither does what you're trying to use it to justify. Back way up and start from first principles.

It is perfectly in context and makes sense in context. You just need to extrapolate.
You are damned and determined to go down with your ship, aren't you? If you want to continue this inane "nuh-uh!" garbage, please find a credible source or retract your (false) claims.
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« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2009, 01:00:31 am »

There are certainly parasites that can survive the stomach, and eating is certainly a common vector for some things (see: any sort of food poisoning).

E. coli can certainly survive your stomach, for instance.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #145 on: December 08, 2009, 01:01:55 am »

And yeah, there is a general lack of reverence (?word) for marriage.
Why should there be any? It's a legal institution. What your religion chooses to bolt onto that legal institution is no concern of anyone else.

It does matter to everyone else who shares that religion, though.
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« Reply #146 on: December 08, 2009, 01:03:27 am »

Yes, but redefining marriage legally doesn't force you to redefine what your religion thinks of it.


If the legal definition of "marriage" doesn't care what gender you are, that doesn't stop you or your church from caring. It just stops them from making other people care who don't want to.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #147 on: December 08, 2009, 01:06:06 am »

Actually I've always wondered why the gay marriage thing is such a big problem for people. It's not like the government is telling churches, "you must marry these fellows with an official ceremony". It's just according them a right heterosexuals have, which really shouldn't be a problem.

Then again, people are insane.
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« Reply #148 on: December 08, 2009, 01:19:42 am »

Actually I've always wondered why the gay marriage thing is such a big problem for people. It's not like the government is telling churches, "you must marry these fellows with an official ceremony". It's just according them a right heterosexuals have, which really shouldn't be a problem.

The insane thing is when people act like it would be giving homosexuals "special rights".

Being able to marry someone of the same sex is no more special a right than being able to marry someone of the opposite sex. They're both rights that would be (and in the latter case, are) afforded to everyone, whether they want to invoke them in their own lives or not.
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Re: Religious/Catholic influence on politics (In US)
« Reply #149 on: December 08, 2009, 01:24:48 am »

There are certainly parasites that can survive the stomach, and eating is certainly a common vector for some things (see: any sort of food poisoning).

E. coli can certainly survive your stomach, for instance.
Sure! Didn't mean to imply that such didn't happen. But E. coli is not an STD. (Nor is it, I would think, terribly susceptible to curettage.)
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