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[Vester]

Plus a lot of Christians have misconceptions about Christianity (maybe they should be a separate religion from the ones that don't have those).  There's evidence of that in all those people who go into a rage over the topic of homosexuality, but will then eat a cheeseburger or shrimp (both of which, according to their section of the bible, are equal offenses to homosexuality.  I personally think the guy who wrote that was a nut job rather than a legitimate prophet).

Don't those show up in Leviticus? Specifically, it refers to eating creatures of the sea without fins or scales, and homosexuality, as 'abomination'.

Which is rather silly. The best I can reconcile that is by noting that the culture and values of those times were significantly different from ours.

[G-Flex]

The reason is that if you believe divorce is not only a bad experience, but is also damaging to the community (and Mennonites usually define sin in how it hurts other people, not how it pisses off God) then that's a strong incentive to try and work out any conflicts you have [...]

This is reasonable, but, for what it's worth, this is possible without religion.

A lot of people just don't take marriage very seriously these days, and divorce as seen as a fairly easy and normal thing.

[LegoLord]

Thank you Vester, it was Leviticus I was thinking of. 

And yeah, there is a general lack of reverence (?word) for marriage.

[KaelGotDwarves]

I'm just stating the facts bro, groups that tend to preach abstinence only have higher rates of divorce.

That's a fact. Why that is a fact is arguable.

I backed up my studies, where's yours showing pre-marital sex causes marital issues?

[Vester]

... This is what happens when I enter a discussion in medias res. I get confused.

I'm just stating the facts bro, groups that tend to preach abstinence only have higher rates of divorce.

Unless divorce is illegal in the country that group calls home.

This is a uniquely American discussion, though.

[LegoLord]

Well, it was a charter school, so it's probably some reputable source.  It was in one of the textbooks (I live in Charleston, btw - the are should have standard textbooks for the subject of personal health,).  Course if I'm wrong then some sort of hell oughta be raised with the school for not following its own policies.  Which is entirely possible.  But seems somewhat unlikely.

Or perhaps the school's information was just out of date relative to what you might have.

And I might add that checking the book I don't have anymore and citing it could take more time than I have had just in this afternoon.

[Lord Dakoth]

Don't those show up in Leviticus? Specifically, it refers to eating creatures of the sea without fins or scales, and homosexuality, as 'abomination'.

Let me clarify a few things.

The thing about fish, and cloven-hoofed animals (such as pork,) was a rule that applied to the Jews, specifically before Jesus' crucifixion (and resurrection, if you believe in that.) The seemingly silly laws were to remind the Jews that they were God's special people, different from other religions. But we (by "we" I mean people of the Christian faiths) don't have to live up to these "standards," because Jesus does all the work for us, and he was the one who lived the perfect life, so we don't have to.

I know that was long-winded and even a bit preachy, but you need the big picture before you understand any religion.

[Vester]

Yes, I agree. I was just pointing out the specific location and wording, which is interesting.

Also, the Jews were allowed to eat fish.

[Lord Dakoth]

Concerning homosexuality: It is in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. That being said, I think that many Christians take it too far, for instance the "God Hates Fags" group. I am forced to either accept that homosexuality is against God's rules and therefore wrong, or I can throw the Bible and the rest of my faith completely out the window.

So, I personally believe that homosexuality is against God's law, but don't burn me at the stake yet. Even though I believe it's wrong, it's not like all gays and lesbians are going to hell. What so many Christians forget is that, according to the Bible, everyone is equally guilty of sin. I'm completely embarrassed by hypocrites who are anti-this and anti-that and don't take a moment to look at themselves, people like this give religion (specifically Christianity) a bad name. It's not about who's a worse sinner than everyone else, it's about loving each other despite everyone being no-good humans.

There's my rant. Had to get that out of my system. Apologies for this being not as relevant as it was when I started typing it.

[Gunner-Chan]

I refuse to get too involved in this discussion on principal, but I have this to add. I'm catholic and I totally disregard the bible, both testaments. I will not take a book that is supposedly gods word seriously as it's been filtered through the minds and ideals of men transcribing it.

And a few people that go to my church share this view actually.

[atomicwinter]

Church should be divided from state

Nuff said

[Neonivek]

What.  The.  Fuck.  Comon... that's not how diseases work at all.  Christ, getting your stomach pumped isn't going to cure a cold, is it?

It depends, if the cold in something I ate and hasn't entered by bloodstream yet?

As for "Chritians don't know a lot about Christianity" that is quite common. I mean otherwise The Divinchi Code wouldn't have sold very well and hardly anyone would have thought it was real.

As for the Jew's aversion to certain foods. Some Scholars believe that the many rules the Jews follow made perfect sense at the time but lost the point of the practice as the religion started to spread but were too inbedded in their religion to remove at that point. In terms of meat this is because some foods like Clams could prove quite deadly.

I know the "Good Friday" No Meat only fish practice in fact originated from a purely non-religious practice made to help the failing fishing industry (at the time it was Every. What ended up happening however is that it was adopted into Religious practice, which just confused everyone.

"Church should be divided from state"

At the time this started to be used it was entirely right.

Now however this statement is starting to become seriously abused. It is one thing to prevent a third party to control your government. It is another to censor your own people because of where certain oppinions originate.

[Lord Dakoth]

Sofia, if not upon the Bible, what is your faith based upon? I don't mean to offend, but it seems like Catholicism without the principal Catholic texts and beliefs would be kind of meaningless.

[Neonivek]

Sofia, if not upon the Bible, what is your faith based upon? I don't mean to offend, but it seems like Catholicism without the principal Catholic texts and beliefs would be kind of meaningless.

Well Catholics do not have to believe the Bibal is word for word as the truth. It isn't a requirement of faith.

I don't know about Christians, I have no idea of their requirements of faith.

Definition: Requirement of faith: a set of beliefs that need to be in place in order for someone to be a true member of a faith.

[Realmfighter]

Sofia, if not upon the Bible, what is your faith based upon? I don't mean to offend, but it seems like Catholicism without the principal Catholic texts and beliefs would be kind of meaningless.

I would imagine that she believes in god, but not the Cristian representation of it.