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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia 6: End - End of an Age  (Read 49852 times)

Nirur Torir

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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #180 on: December 11, 2009, 01:45:18 pm »

End.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #181 on: December 11, 2009, 02:51:45 pm »

Vector:k. I'll cut the crap out. But that was certainly interesting wasn't it?
AND I wouldn't have learned all that if I wouldn't have tried right?

Since you seem to want an answer, interesting in a train-wreck "Goddammit, is he going to stop soon?" sort of a way.

If you've never broken a lot of social rules simultaneously, I suppose it could be a learning experience.  I've generally tried to learn this game by going with the flow established by others, with the idea that I'll probably be irritating enough without intentionally pissing people off.

So, I guess you've learned how people treat somebody profoundly annoying the first couple of times they encounter the person in question.  If you needed to learn that in this context, then I suppose I'm glad for you.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #182 on: December 11, 2009, 03:52:34 pm »

End, although it doesn't change jack shit.

I realize that I'm pretty effectively stumbling through this game, but this need not be a bad thing entirely.

Be certain that I wouldn't act this way if I was doc. Also note that I don't believe Rooster to be scum. Being so reckless is not scum at all.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #183 on: December 11, 2009, 03:59:11 pm »

Unvote Rooster.
Errol: are you asking what I got, or what I'd like?

Yellow.

Cobalt(d?): Did you policy-vote me?
On the policy of "you're doing something stupidly antitown and probably scum"
Blue, probably. Justice is important.

Rooster: It's both a policy vote and a vote against scumminess. If I had to choose two people to lynch, I would pick you and CobaltKobold. You're purposely giving off scumtells and trying to annoy people. (No, seriously. I'm not affected much, I just hate the thought of you getting suspended for a week, messing the game up.)

I realize that my argument against CobaltKobold sounds like WIFOM-rich nonsense, but I'll try again.

I suspect she is scum, using logic similar to something I would probably use in the same situation. She could have just NKed me (Unless there was a doctor protecting me), but she didn't. She was, however, VERY quick to point out that a day 1 lynch on a scumbuddy is pretty effective WIFOM.
She did very little on day one, aside from poking Errol for his mistakes. She stayed mostly silent about the entire Magma ordeal, aside from a pointless question shortly before the day ended.
Everyone else had asked what needed asking. It is scummy to ride on others' arguments. And, you're spewing WIFOM again.
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This, bve and beyond the rest, tells me you're scum, Nirur Torir. Town don't ask for early ends. They need all the time they can get. Object to day end.

PPE: Errol: don't drink the wifom.
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Nirur Torir

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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #184 on: December 11, 2009, 04:09:23 pm »

Town don't ask for early ends. They need all the time they can get. Object to day end.

I knew this was coming, actually. You're so very predictable in your assumption that I am scum. You're also implying that our time is limited. - Town has all the time it can get.

3 requests to extend required to extend the day.  If extended, deadline will be on Monday.

Tell me, CobaltKobold. Why is asking for an end so very scummy? Most of us feel that Rooster needs to go. Or are you saying that, despite having voted for Rooster, you didn't really want to lynch him?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #185 on: December 11, 2009, 04:32:38 pm »

Also:
Unvote. Vote CobaltKobold.
Rescind END request.
Request extension. We're likely to need it now.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #186 on: December 11, 2009, 04:38:37 pm »

See that, town? That's an OMGUS right there. He doesn't even TRY to justify it.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #187 on: December 11, 2009, 04:39:09 pm »

(where "he" = Nirur Torir)
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Nirur Torir

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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #188 on: December 11, 2009, 04:49:27 pm »

Didn't try to justify what? The End request? You're evading my query on how that is a scummy thing to do in this situation.

See that, town? That's an OMGUS right there. He doesn't even TRY to justify it.
"I AM TOWN TOO!" Yea, I think you berated me for that earlier, now you're doing that. Unless you're really saying that you're not part of the town?

Voting you because you voted me? Yea, I already admitted to that. You consider my logic for why I did that WIFOM though.

Or am I failing to explain something else to your liking?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #189 on: December 11, 2009, 04:55:59 pm »

OMGUS= voting someone because they vote you as primary reason. This is what you're doing. Scum-central.

REquesting to end the day is bad for town because it shortens the discussion time. I'd think that was patently obvious.

And no, I did not say that I'm town, nor can it be implied from what I said. Your accusation is spurious. I am addressing the rest of the players, which is generally known as "the town".

Request extend- Rooster shouldn't be lynched when Nirur's doing this crap.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #190 on: December 11, 2009, 04:59:51 pm »

Technically, it's only a major scumtell if done without a good reason.

There wasn't much discussion going on, and Dak is giving us all the discussion time we want. It does not shorten the discussion time.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #191 on: December 11, 2009, 05:08:31 pm »

You were not voting me before. Now you are voting me. There was no change in justification between the two, aside from me voting you. Therefore, you are voting me because I am voting you and not for another reason.
I knew this was coming, actually. You're so very predictable in your assumption that I am scum.
This is funny, because you were miffed when people assumed you were town. But I'm not assuming, I'm making an educated guess.

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Tell me, CobaltKobold. Why is asking for an end so very scummy?
Scum do not want town to figure them out. Discussion time provides for this. nd, now, there is discussion, which would not have happened had you got your scummy information-hiding ways.
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Or are you saying that, despite having voted for Rooster, you didn't really want to lynch him?
Having voted for Rooster, I wanted to lynch him. Past tense. Now, I want to lynch you.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #192 on: December 11, 2009, 05:20:44 pm »

The change in justification was you using an end request as an "obvious" scumtell.

I'm perfectly happy with discussion. It'd be nice if we had other people accusing us though, since we seem to have run low on sticks to hit each other with.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #193 on: December 11, 2009, 05:34:21 pm »

Rooster, will the madness never end? This is not a policy lynch, this is lynching off scum. There are plenty of damn good reasons to vote for you, and your grasping at straws. You're not going to be able to WIFOM your way out of it. You've had no defense beyond, essentially, wanting to make trouble and experiment and then pointing your finger at Nirur. While I support experimenting, you are the scummiest player here.

Also, votecount please.

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To answer that question with MagmaDeaths last post, I'm not concerned about it. The way I see it it's just a coupla last words, and whatever the mafia is plotting it should probably try to get the doctor, not focus its wrath on a hapless vanilla townie.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with this statement? Are you saying you expect them to go after another lurker? Are you claiming that you're not the doctor? I'm having a bit of trouble trying to piece together your intent.

Org, since I keep forgetting you are playing and have no desire to let you just fade into the background, I'd like you to describe what you think of all the players and... uh... at least one other thing you can think of that results in a paragraph of least 3 sentences.
No. I wont. I want to play, but thats asking for too much.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 6: Day 2: ...and Red all over.
« Reply #194 on: December 11, 2009, 05:36:44 pm »

Really, Org?
Rooster. Do not try to copy Org. Ever. One it is the dumbest thing you would ever evvvvvvvvveeeeerrrrrrrrrr want to do. Everyone hates you. IT usually isnt fun. I do it since I have stuff in between but whatever. Sure. Trying to get away from that. Two, while it might work, it just isnt fun to be against. It just....no. Just no. Dont. Thats why half the forum hates me.

Did I missed any questions addressed to me? If I did, sorry. Please quote and re-ask.
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