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[dakarian]

I didn't vig because I didn't have a firm catch on who was scum on either night, and vigging N2 would've left us with at a sure fire mylo rather than where we are now. 

Btw, WHY did he check forsaken?

Yeah I had to call his bluff, now that it's done I suppose there's no reason to keep it quiet. I am a Mad Scientist and had picked assassin bot as my tech.

I'm also a kook, oddly enough. Now... lets find some scum.

Whether he's honest or lying, you'd see Dopp either way! 

[forsaken1111]

The dopp result on forsaken is interesting.

Yeah, told you day 1 I was a kook. Kind of a waste of a scan.

[Neruz]

You have to admit though forsaken, it does seem very convenient.


Investigating you is a bit wierd though, once someone's pulled the kook card why would you investigate him?

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

For dakarian if you could pass it along:

I scanned forsaken because I had backed him up day 1 and wanted to check to make sure if he was town.

I had actually forgotten about the kook claim until webadict pointed it out after we were both dead.

What Janus said.

Also list of claims:
It goes:
*Player name - role claim - action claim
Alive (11, 4 dopps, ? alien(s))
    * ToonyMan/Rickvoid - Hasn't claimed
    * Leafsnail - Hasn't claimed
    * forsaken1111 - Mad scientist (assassin bot), kook - killed Panda
    * Frelock - Hasn't claimed
    * RedWarrior0 - Hasn't claimed
    * Neruz - Hasn't claimed
    * ExKirby/replacement - Alien Operative - Not claimed
    * Kashyyk - Hasn't Claimed
    * MagmaDeath - Hasn't claimed
    * dakarian - Vig - noned n1 and n2
    * A_Fey_Dwarf - Medium - N/A

Dead (5, 1 alien)
    * Pandarsenic - Alien Exterminator - N/A
    * JanusTwoFace - Human Agent - Investigated Foresaken n1, dopp
    * webadict - Human Telepath - Hasn't said yet
    * Org - Human Enchanter - N/A
    * Jim Groovester - Human Psychic Warden - Hasn't said yet

Also I didn't mention it before because I forgot but there is also a possibility of two town mediums, as there are role double ups.

[forsaken1111]

Well, now that Web is done committing suicide let's get back to it. I still think Neruz is the most likely scum right now, as I've said for the last 2 days. I went over these reasons before, and they have not changed.

[Leafsnail]

I am scum medium and there is no town medium. The dead would not give me information as they would know I am lieing about two mediums.

I think you tripped up here.  It only states that a medium exists in the dead chat, not the number of them.  Why did you make this mistake?

You know, there is another possibility.  You're scum who's pretending to be a medium.  But for now...

Neruz, I'm still worried about the way you've suddenly backed off from me.

Well i'm still fine with lynching ExKirby, although i think at the moment that Leafsnail or dakarian are probably more likely to be scum.

This is the very essence of passivity!  "Yeah, I'll lynch ExKirby, or dakarian, or Leafsnail, or anyone you suggest, actually...".  You also attacked forsaken over the inspection, and again over the fact he claimed kook (even though you didn't attack him yesterday when he claimed it).  You are either extremely indifferent to the town or scum.

As for an MC... no.  We aren't at lylo yet.  11 players, 4 dopps is not lylo.  Heck, if we're ready for an MC, we should at least lynch ExKirby, confirmed scum (if he's not an operative, he's a dopp), first.  Massive FoS on those suggesting a rolefishing festival.

[Frelock]

I agree; an MC would only give the dopps more info on who to kill; not that they'd really need it, what with a claimed vig, there's very little that would be considered better kills.  Of course, if we have web on our side, then it might have more credence, but that's exactly what a false medium would want us to believe.

In any case, AFD before I firmly believe that you are a medium, and not a dopp going with a ballsy claim, I'm going to need more info.  Namely web's results and Jim's actions.  Better yet, skip Web's results, as they could be detrimental if there's a "find" or "protect" that the dopps didn't know about.  Also, I'm curious; what's the other medium saying?  Obviously, he must have said something, or you wouldn't know about him, as Leaf pointed out.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Are you guys stupid?
Even if we lynch ExKirby and he is operative, the scum kills a townie in the night, we are left with 9 players tomorrow, 4 of which are dopp and one is likely an alien, leaving only 4 town. The scum can quite easily win in such a situation.

I am scum medium and there is no town medium. The dead would not give me information as they would know I am lieing about two mediums.

I think you tripped up here.  It only states that a medium exists in the dead chat, not the number of them.  Why did you make this mistake?

Except the other medium has obviously spoken in deadchat so all dead know that there are two mediums. How is this not obvious?


Also now in from webadict:

I cannot tell you anything. Nor should Jim. Not if it's not important.

Anyhow, lynch dakarian. As a non-acting Vigilante, he KNOWS it doesn't prove anything. In fact, he should've killed ANYONE those past two Nights, to back up his claim. He's bold-faced lying. I know it. He needs to die. HE NEEDS TO DIE!

Dakarain I agree you should have viged n1 as you then could have claimed it and be almost confirmed of being a vig. However viging last night would have been a mistake as ExKirby was also supposed to kill someone and if you had both killed town, we would have lost.
Claiming vig after not viging anyone at all? Now that is suspicious.

[ToonyMan]

I am a psychic warden.

Night 1 - rickvoid did it, Meph says I blocked Frelock.
Night 2 - Blocked dakarian.

We should all claim guys.  Mylo is the same as lylo in all essence.

[Leafsnail]

Unvote.

Even if we lynch ExKirby and he is operative, the scum kills a townie in the night, we are left with 9 players tomorrow, 4 of which are dopp and one is likely an alien, leaving only 4 town. The scum can quite easily win in such a situation.

Wait... what alien?  We can't possibly have a scientist (he's basically lost now if there is one, anyway) so that just leaves Survivor... and survivor isn't always going to be anti town.  Also, since Pandar probably had intel (Personal Shield + Intel seems like the best choice to me) it would be stupid of him to claim a role that isn't in the game.  And you know what?  I don't think webadict would make this mistake, A_Fey_Dwarf.  I reckon you're the soul Dopp medium, claiming there's another for WIFOM purposes.

I agree; an MC would only give the dopps more info on who to kill; not that they'd really need it, what with a claimed vig, there's very little that would be considered better kills.

That's asumming that there's no doctor AND that dakarian is town.

[Leafsnail]

EBWOP:

For "isn't in the game", I meant "is in the game".

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
A_Fey_Dwarf: Leafsnail
ExKirby: dakarian
Neruz: forsaken1111
dakarian: ToonyMan

[RedWarrior0]

AFD: You claim town medium, saying there's another medium. Do you believe this other medium is scum? If so, who is he? Why haven't you done anything about it?

As for the MC, I'm an Observant Guard. Night One, webadict. Night Two, AFD. Nothing either night.

[Kashyyk]

Alright AFD. I counter claim. I'm the other medium. And I do agree with his post on situations.
I am including the fact that I maybe Scum in this assessment as I have no way of proving it.

Possible situations:
I am scum medium and there is no town medium. The dead would not give me information as they would know I am lieing about two mediums. Proved False
I am scum medium and there is a town medium. If that were the case claiming medium as scum would be suicide as the other town medium could counter claim, all information from dead chat would be given to town through both of the mediums. One of us would then be lynched and the scum could night kill a medium who was pretty useless anyway. Possible
I am town medium and the other medium is scum. I claim, the other scum medium could either counter claim or be silent. If the other medium counter claims, dead can send all information to town through both mediums. One of either of us is lynched, if I am lynched you know that the other medium is scum. If the scum medium is lynched then I am town and am probably dead tonight. Possible

The one thing that AFD didn't consider is the fact that there are two town mediums. I suspect there maybe as I'm a Kook. To me, this equals out the points gained from a second medium. However, because AFD didn't include this option, it can not be ruled out that he is scum.

This is something else that Webadict said.

And they're still avoiding MC because they know for a fact they'd be caught. Tell Leafsnail he's a moron and also that he's scum. dakarian is 99% scum. You need to tell them to MC because of the fact that you HAVE AN OPERATIVE AND THE CHANCE OF A MAD SCIENTIST WITH AN ASSASSIN BOT! Holy crap! This is moronic to the nth degree!

[Kashyyk]

Here's something that Panda said also:

Dak is scum. Anyone else avoiding the claim probably is too.