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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #390 on: December 10, 2009, 09:37:51 pm »

Is redwarrior even still here? I havn't seen him post in ages. He might need a mod prod.

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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #391 on: December 10, 2009, 09:56:07 pm »

I made it to Page 19. I started bleeding from my ears, so I stopped. Anyhow, here's what I got from it:

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Leafsnail
RV Pandarsenic; Unvotes; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897858#msg897858: “Shooting Pandarsenic is pro-scum”; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897906#msg897906: “I would've shot Pandarsenic. It's pro-town!”; V Org (Joking); FoS MagmaDeath (Voting for Org?)
V Neruz (Unvoting)

forsaken1111
RV Kashyyk (RV Webadict); FoS A_Fey_Dwarf (Overreacting); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg896404#msg896404: Sudden switch off A_Fey_Dwarf; FoS A_Fey_Dwarf again (Tunneling Pandarsenic); |Okay, there's something really strange here... I missed it initially| http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg896733#msg896733: “We shouldn't call Pandarsenic's bluff.” |Too be fair, it was before Mind Shield argument.|; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897254#msg897254: Janus likes to point out suspicious things...; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897605#msg897605: He claims shooting him and Kook |Suspcious? Definitely|; FoS Neruz (Bad reasoning); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897862#msg897862: Not sure if he saw the Mind Shield; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898082#msg898082: THIS WAS UNEXPECTED! I SHOULD'VE SEEN THIS! HOW DID HE KNOW IT WAS PRO-TOWN BEFORE HE DID IT?!?; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898233#msg898233: Bad reasoning; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898841#msg898841: Terrible reasoning; http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898892#msg898892: Horrendous reasoning; V Neruz (Doesn't believe him); V Org (Make sure he's lynched); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg900019#msg900019: Another nail in his coffin? Hardly. You did the same thing!
V Neruz (No evidence for Day 1 [There's was an abundance of evidence!])

Jim Groovester
RV dakarian; V Org (Asking questions too early); FoS A_Fey_Dwarf (Defending Org); Gets angry at my vote; Gets angry at me calling him defensive; Gets more angry and still refuses to do anything; Knew all along it was a ruse; FoS dakarian (Sheep following)
V A_Fey_Dwarf (Bad reason to vote him); FoS dakarian (No WoT)

Frelock
V Org (Anti-Town, Policy Lynch); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898810#msg898810: This argument would be fine if forsaken1111 had asked what would happen. He didn't. He had plenty of chance to do so, but he didn't.

RedWarrior0
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg898066#msg898066: Took forever to show up but never responds
V Neruz (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg908952#msg908952: Unvote unneccesary)

Neruz
RV Jim Groovester (RV dakarian); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg895745#msg895745: Answers a question about scum tactics; FoS Pandarsenic (WIFOM); Finds the Mind Shield suspicious but thinks only about Advanced Mind Shield|; Unvotes (No longer RVS); FoS Freock and forsaken1111 (Frelock talked about Assassin Bot and forsaken1111 claimed it [How is that suspicious at all?]); V forsaken1111 (Doesn't believe claim, Wanted Pandarsenic alive, WIFOM, colluding with Frelock {SERIOUSLY?!?}, random crap {None of his reasons are any good, except the Kook one he doesn't mention}); Asks Mephansteras (Not in thread!) what would happen with a Deadman Bomb; FoS Frelock AGAIN (Colluding); V Org (Also making sure Org is lynched); Unvotes (Save himself from deadman bomb [Okay, this does look scummy])
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg908234#msg908234: Neruz loses to doubt.

ExKirby
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897367#msg897367: Someone finally shows up and with no suspicions to boot; V Webadict (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897392#msg897392: [It takes him 17 minutes to read further in depth {Not to mention he could've done this FIRST} and votes because Jim said: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg897372#msg897372]; Retaliates dakarian (Nothing else happened); V forsaken1111 (Scummy, Org can wait)

Kashyyk
RV Webadict; Says he would've shot Pandarsenic; V Neruz (Frantic about proving forsaken1111 scum)

MagmaDeath
RV forsaken1111; V Org

dakarian
RV JanusTwoface [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg895595#msg895595:Who's “us?” {http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg895725#msg895725:JanusTwoface also points this out later! |Suspicious? Yes|}]; V A_Fey_Dwarf (Flip-flopping on Org lynch); FoS ExKirby (Lack of scumhunting, sheep following, and buddying [I don't see Buddying]); Neruz/forsaken argument has too much WIFOM (He's too lazy to analyze it); V Jim Groovester (Asking questions?)
V Jim Groovester (Skipped Questions

A_Fey_Dwarf
Talks about importance of Day 1 and Day 2. RV RedWarrior0 (Known lurker); FoS JanusTwoface and Jim Groovester (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg896058#msg896058: Org always does this); http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=45614.msg896113#msg896113: Org lynch is now A-okay!; |He likes to list facts|; V Jim Groovester (Reaction to Org's Questions/Joke)
V Jim Groovester (Believes the scum are focused solely on his accusations and are trying to disprove them [Center of the universe?])

What I think is that forsaken is scum and Leafsnail is scum. After that, I'm only guessing.

I missed a bunch on forsaken because... well... he did stuff I would've done. Which is odd, because I'm pretty sure he'd never do what I'd do. Leafsnail's recent arguments remind me of himself in NSBMII as scum. Dakarian doesn't notice that, so I'll assume he's maybe scum.

Last one... I dunno. MagmaDeath?
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #392 on: December 10, 2009, 10:31:31 pm »

I'm here. I'd post who I think is scum and why, except that I'm more or less being dragged off the computer right now.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #393 on: December 10, 2009, 11:52:47 pm »

Web.. about your attack on forsaken:

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Either way, killing him was pro-town. Survivor is anti-town at lylo, exterminator is always anti-town.

Yes, he didn't know if it was the Survivor or Exterminator.  Either way, though, it's not hard to for him to think that it was pro-town, especially with the whole "role didn't say anything about daykills" matter (which IS a legal argument.  I know I get very picky on whether the role says day or night or lynched or killed).  It WAS a pro-town move.  The issue is whether he did it as town or as scum for doing it since both sides have good reasons for thinking it was a proper move.  Figuring that out only off of Day 1 text is just WIFOM.  You need more normal info from him to see if he's scum or not.


The leafsnail argument misses a major point: Leafsnail is speaking about the Scum perspective the first time and Town the second time.  He presented that whether a Survivor/deadman or Exterminator, both scum and town have reasons to off him. 


Finding the data was interesting.  However, it also means you are Deflecting now, since you decided to completely ignore my entire argument just to put up wide scan, which I know takes much much longer than simply answering to my charges and explaining yourself.  That both of your scum choices are based off of misreads and incomplete analysis just makes it look a rushed attempt to make yourself look like you're trying to scumhunt.


But nevermind.  It's over now. I'm done with you.

@Everyone

I presented the argument against Webadict and he has found it impossible to even try to explain himself, opting to deflect suspicion instead.  As such, I deem him scum and in need of a lynch.

If you find a flaw in my argument, state it to me, so I can explain myself or reevaluate my reasoning.

If you find my argument sensible, but are unsure about Webadict, present your issues and questions to him so that he can answer them until you are sure one way or another.

If you believe my argument and have no questions for Webadict, then vote for him and let's end this day.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #394 on: December 11, 2009, 12:44:37 am »

Web.. about your attack on forsaken:

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Either way, killing him was pro-town. Survivor is anti-town at lylo, exterminator is always anti-town.

Yes, he didn't know if it was the Survivor or Exterminator.  Either way, though, it's not hard to for him to think that it was pro-town, especially with the whole "role didn't say anything about daykills" matter (which IS a legal argument.  I know I get very picky on whether the role says day or night or lynched or killed).  It WAS a pro-town move.  The issue is whether he did it as town or as scum for doing it since both sides have good reasons for thinking it was a proper move.  Figuring that out only off of Day 1 text is just WIFOM.  You need more normal info from him to see if he's scum or not.


The leafsnail argument misses a major point: Leafsnail is speaking about the Scum perspective the first time and Town the second time.  He presented that whether a Survivor/deadman or Exterminator, both scum and town have reasons to off him. 


Finding the data was interesting.  However, it also means you are Deflecting now, since you decided to completely ignore my entire argument just to put up wide scan, which I know takes much much longer than simply answering to my charges and explaining yourself.  That both of your scum choices are based off of misreads and incomplete analysis just makes it look a rushed attempt to make yourself look like you're trying to scumhunt.


But nevermind.  It's over now. I'm done with you.
Seriously? That's your best defense of forsaken? I said that. It made sense to me. What doesn't make sense is forsaken's argument, especially in the way he said it.

Also, your best argument against me now is I'm "deflecting" which is a bunch of BS because all you're doing is tunnel-skipping. If you can't lynch Jim, you have to lynch me. If you aren't able to lynch me, who will it be next? I notice that you're not doing your usual "So-and-so is scum, but so-and-so might also be scum you usually do." You're using all your current ability to try and "find" me guilty. I'm not and I'm pretty sure you know it.

How about this: Janus was an FBI Agent, correct? Who do you think he examined? Perhaps he did, and perhaps he didn't, but if he had, and I came up scum, wouldn't there be someone calling for my lynch?
That don't work? You think maybe a Detective would've scanned me? You think maybe a Telepath did? You think maybe a Warden blocked me? You think maybe a majority of the power roles used their power on me? The only way I'd be able to hide was if I were a Doppelganger Leader, but then I'd show as "No Role" (I won't ;).)
Where's all that evidence? You're exploiting the lack of knowledge as suitable reasons for voting me. Perhaps I pointed out a reasonable reason for Janus to be killed. You didn't acknowledge that one, did you? Oh no! Deflection!
Yeah, whatever, you lying whore.

Here's your pathetic argument:
@Web

The accusations against you

-the lack of aggression in your hunts

-the changing of your stated Day 1's motivation

- the lack of focus towards hunting scum

- the lack of reasons for deeming people as town.

- Buddying with Jim *

It points to Sidelining Scum wanting to put a show of a hunt early on then changing gears to avoid being committed to anything beyond an easy hit.
Uh huh. Here's a good amount of WIFOM that goes with everything I do: Why would I do that ever? I'm only ever caught by Power Roles. EVER. My scum game is ridiculous, and you're thinking this would have CAUGHT me? HA! You're funny.

Now, onto those "attacks?"

Lack of aggression in my hunts? Aggression how? Wanna give me a valid post here? Because I don't go easy on real hunts.
Changing of Day 1 motivation? Do you even speak English? My motivation every Day is to catch scum, you slut! That's everyone's motivation, pretend or not. I don't pretend, because even if I'm scum, I look for ANY scum.
Lack of focus toward scum? Uh huh, and you would know whom specifically I'd need to be focusing on, now wouldn't you? And somehow you can berate me for using Day 1 info and use it yourself. You're a class act.
Lack of reasons for claiming people town? I can claim whoever I WANT as town! I feel like they're town, so I'll call them town. If they're not, then oh well, I was wrong, but I will call them town when and how I want. There's no way you're NOT trying to be so incredibly unintelligent. Almost EVERYONE ELSE has done this and you will only call me out on this?
And, buddying with Jim? I didn't buddy with him. You just think everyone buddies with everyone. That's the worst argument ever.

The last one is new to the argument, helped by getting a read on Jim finally.  You pushed him hard Day 1 and defend him now leading him to feel relieved that the pressure you had on him is over and him not wanting to attract your notice.  I saw that same trick in BM2.  You push someone soft (Jim) then let go and attack someone they are after (AFD).  At worst it keeps the town on who you want to focus on.  At best it causes the softy to charge at AFD half glad to be out of the spotlight and half glad to be after their would-be killers.

Scum did it all three days of BM2 and after the second day, there was no way for the town to break out of it. 


So no, I don't have you on just Defensiveness.  Not at all. 


Meanwhile

ExKirby... MEH.  He's effectively a SK weakened JOAT.  On the one hand, ChatMafia DOES create SK roles with one kill and they do win on occasion.  Also note that so long as he lives the game won't end since his win condition can still occur.  Along with this, he could be lying scum attempting to dodge a bandwagon and knowing we'll lynch a Survivor.  On the other, he has no real reason to work with either side and he's just about ruined his chances by claiming if he's honest.

It comes down to Meta, almost like how people who already lost but still exist in Parallel operate.  RedWarrior wanted to hurt the town, Eduren tried to help it. 

Myself, I don't see ExKirby willing to be vengeful just for the sake of it.  He IS however capable of fakeclaiming and being awkward in it. 

End result: For now ExKirby is a maybe that can be figured out with his actions later on, so long as we don't let him lurk.  If he's an Operative, I believe he'll help rather than just give us the finger.  If he's lying, we'll find out through future actions.  For today, I'd rather we get back to scumhunting.


Here's a good argument against forsaken, though:
Given that he were a Mad Scientist with an Assassin Bot (Anything else is an automatic scum).
Solve for his alignment.

He had no knowledge of Pandarsenic's Mind Shield and had told everyone that he should wait to lynch and not to call his bluff just yet. This was followed immediately by Pandarsenic being killed. No mention. Didn't know. Nothing. He didn't claim the attack BEFORE it went off. Why is that? Because he didn't want anyone to know about it before it went off, because he was pressured into by his own scum group, which means they were hoping it WAS, in fact, a Survivor, and were betting on the odds. He never asked about if it would go off (I'm guessing this is a lie and that he KNEW if there was a Deadman Bomb, that it would go off and kill two randoms) as a cover, which was ironically a very bad cover. If he had asked if it did, it would STILL be a bad cover, because he didn't inform the town that he was going to use it without informing them about the odds! Because they didn't SAY whether or not would REQUIRE asking, because it's a kill like any other! That means it's worth asking.
If he had informed the town prior to the attempt, he would've been town. He would've had to ask (And he didn't sound like he was disbelieving either, so he couldn't go for the "Do it now!" way.) He didn't ask. He did it. THEN he claimed it. That's a bunch of crap.

And most of my Leafsnail argument comes from his most recent playing. What I had there was minuscule.

Oh, now what argument are you planning to use? Who's next?

BRING IT DAKARIAN!

I'm going to be watching you. I'm going to be watching you EVERY. SINGLE. NIGHT.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #395 on: December 11, 2009, 01:58:17 am »

This Game type is screwing with my mind.
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« Reply #396 on: December 11, 2009, 02:20:21 am »

Oh, NOW you show up.  Took me requesting you to be lynched to get you to try.

1.  The piece on Forsaken was less about defense and more about showing how shotty your offense is.  Given that it was in place of an actual defense that doesn't look well for you.  Forsaken didn't make sense?  Funny, you agreed that what he did MADE sense earlier.  It's not until you were primed up for the lynch that ALL OF A SUDDEN it NOW looks bad to you.

Guess you were too busy pushing that....joke..trap..nonargument on Jim.

My best argument is deflecting?  That's just icing.  You already spotted the rest of my argument.


"not doing your usual "So-and-so is scum, but so-and-so might also be scum you usually do." "

I avoid doing that as much as possible.  I HATE doing that.  I've called people out for doing that!  That's scum team building and it burns you more times than it helps. 

Even when there's 4 scum around, I focus on 1 or two at a time.  You find scum individually, and once you actually FIND one, then you establish the links.  Until you do, you push and push individuals till you read them.  When you run out of targets you Scan, find others, then push and push until the scum show off.

I pushed AFD until he talked.  I pushed Jim until he did.. finally.  Now I push you and this time I struck pay dirt. 

Btw, the whole role mess:  Rolefish mixed with WIFOM.   The first bit meanwhile:

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Janus was an FBI Agent, correct? Who do you think he examined? Perhaps he did, and perhaps he didn't, but if he had, and I came up scum, wouldn't there be someone calling for my lynch?

Broken Crap Logic.  Janus died after scanning.  If he scanned you and found you scum, he wouldn't have a chance to speak up unless there's a medium and that assuming he would check you rather than others he suspected, and that's also meaning the medium has to out himself.



Now we get to the argument at hand.

First off: meh to your attempt at a Meta Defense.  "no way!  My scum game works differently."  Your scum game is what you want it to be. 

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Lack of aggression in my hunts? Aggression how? Wanna give me a valid post here? Because I don't go easy on real hunts.

This marks that everything you've done to Jim was not hunting Jim.  Oh?  It was a trap for anyone that will vote with you?  Let's see now.

AFD:  He voted for Jim, and you did attack him...with only two back to back posts.  Although you claim later that AFD fell for your trap when, in fact, AFD had his own reasons which you attacked on.  Furthermore, you've done nothing beyond that.  Now AFD is back as 'town' even though there was almost nothing to prompt you believing him. 

The other who voted for him.  Me, who you've said a few times looks town to you..well.. until JUST now were I 'might be' scum, but not because of Jim.

And that is pretty much the sum of your attacks, except for that 'written from the Gibbet' scan.

So no, very little aggression. Perhaps you are right in that you don't go easy on real hunts.  I can believe that.  Of course, that means you never were really hunting since the game started.

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Changing of Day 1 motivation? Do you even speak English? My motivation every Day is to catch scum, you slut! That's everyone's motivation, pretend or not. I don't pretend, because even if I'm scum, I look for ANY scum.

Poor logic in answering that one.  The meaning is "changing your stated motivation for the purpose behind your Day 1 actions."

Here you were just making a joke, and demonstrating how you can turn every post into a negative statement.

Here you say that you WERE pressuring him.

Here it's a trap to catch other scum.


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Lack of focus toward scum? Uh huh, and you would know whom specifically I'd need to be focusing on, now wouldn't you?

You focused on Jim but, depending on which was the truth, either you were just making a joke, hunting, only to just give up on him without a reason, or not focused on him at all.

You went after AFD but only for a little while and never went back to him (no, spending all your time on me isn't an excuse.  You can attack one person and defend against another).  You spend a ton of time on me and I was town to you. 

So no, you weren't focused on who you think was scum. 

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And somehow you can berate me for using Day 1 info and use it yourself. You're a class act.

Misrepresentation.  I'm berating you for wasting your Day 1, not because you are USING day 1.  There were also berates for your actions Day 1 which attempted to make any use of Jim's Day 1 info impossible (since it was a Joke/trap after all)

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Lack of reasons for claiming people town? I can claim whoever I WANT as town! I feel like they're town, so I'll call them town. If they're not, then oh well, I was wrong, but I will call them town when and how I want. There's no way you're NOT trying to be so incredibly unintelligent. Almost EVERYONE ELSE has done this and you will only call me out on this?

You yourself say that it's bad form to not suspect anyone.  That was a lesson you drilled into the folks of BM3 HARD since they kept calling you town.  Townies don't know who is town and who isn't and can't just assume people are one way or another.  Just like how you need more than one scumtell to find scum, you need more than just 'a feeling' without a proper read to see someone as town.  You've done little to push people enough to find a read at all.  As such, you have nothing day-game wise to see them as town.

Of course, there are people who can easily say if someone is town since they know, right at Day 1, who is scum.

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And, buddying with Jim? I didn't buddy with him. You just think everyone buddies with everyone. That's the worst argument ever.

Nah.  Buddying does happen and regularly.  So has the "Attack someone then suddenly pull off to attack their aggressor" ploy.  Btw, a quick poke on Exkirby and a direct claim against you is NOT 'everyone'.



As for your new attack on forsaken:

Yes, THAT is a good theory.  Now if you had brought it up, say, Day 1 when it was being argued, or along with that Widescan, I would believe that it was your scumhunting.  Instead, you just proved that when you make a man that's afraid to die a goal they WILL reach it after a few desperate fumbles.

Of course, you only had time to quickly find something realistic for one person.  You don't have anything on Leafsnail and are now looking all over the place for something, some THEORY that would say "See?  I can be pro-town too!  Look, SCUM SCUM!"

You never had any of that info before.  You didn't see ANYONE as scum before.  You don't really see them as scum now.  You're just talking to get me off your back.  You were fakehunting before.   You wanted to frustrate to push the attacks away after, and now you just want to put some other bait in front of me..anything, doesn't matter what so long as it is not you.

Fearmongering to end it.  My soul is prepared.  How's yours?
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #397 on: December 11, 2009, 10:14:14 am »

I got about two sentences in, realizing you misspelled shoddy, to see that your whole argument is crap. You probably won't be able to understand that, because you're a moron, but it means your argument is not good. BAD.

I see you didn't take whether or not others scanned me. Or if there was, in fact, other FBI Agents. You took it out because it didn't fit with you. It's not rolefishing; It's logic. It didn't happen, and it's not likely it's going to because it's not real.

You didn't push A_Fey_Dwarf. You just sorta voted him. All you did against Jim was ask him a few questions, and him skipping over them somehow made him scum. I could say the same about your argument. You skipped over some of the logic to make it fit. That's scummy.

I see you're not really bringing up lack of aggression. You're just saying that my first push was a lie.

Day 1 Motivation: I have grasped a task known as multi-tasking. I realize because you're thick-headed, that you wouldn't comprehend, but it means I can do multiple things at once, using several portions of my brain more efficiently. I pushed him. I made a terrible argument for him. I stopped caring about him. It all happened so fast!

And joke? It's no joke. I can do it. I did it. It was plainly obvious.

Let's see, scum focus next: I focused all the resources I wished to expend. Now you're saying I can attack and defend at once. Guess what! I AM! And now you're calling it deflection! So, someone is again a hypocrite. Why don't you make up your mind already?

And yeah, I probably did waste Day 1. You got me! It's a Day where you basically go around and point fingers. I use it as productively as that. Glad to see you didn't call anyone else on that. But, all you're doing is wasting Day 2.

I never said I don't suspect them. I always suspect them. I just think that probability dictates they are more likely to be town. Somehow, there's a difference there.

Buddying:
YOU ALWAYS SAY SOMEONE IS BUDDYING IN EVERY GAME YOU PLAY EVER! No one sees it but you. You just are too paranoid to think in most cases.

As for your new attack on forsaken:

Yes, THAT is a good theory.  Now if you had brought it up, say, Day 1 when it was being argued, or along with that Widescan, I would believe that it was your scumhunting.  Instead, you just proved that when you make a man that's afraid to die a goal they WILL reach it after a few desperate fumbles.

Of course, you only had time to quickly find something realistic for one person.  You don't have anything on Leafsnail and are now looking all over the place for something, some THEORY that would say "See?  I can be pro-town too!  Look, SCUM SCUM!"

You never had any of that info before.  You didn't see ANYONE as scum before.  You don't really see them as scum now.  You're just talking to get me off your back.  You were fakehunting before.   You wanted to frustrate to push the attacks away after, and now you just want to put some other bait in front of me..anything, doesn't matter what so long as it is not you.

Fearmongering to end it.  My soul is prepared.  How's yours?
Oh no. I put it out there so if and when I die, people will know that I was town and be able to use such info. You just believe everything is a scumtell, and you're LOOKING for them. You're an idiot. I hope you die tonight, because I know Leafsnail will get lynched tomorrow. Because that is my wish. I want him to be lynched tomorrow.

Obviously, I didn't see that yesterday, or I would've brought it up. Somehow seeing it late isn't better than never here, because you're a moron.

And you're so obvious about your accusations. The point of defending IS to stop you from attacking. It DID take me some time to find people scummy. These are obvious things. Somehow they're scummy.

Your soul better be ready. Because if you're going to take me down, I'll take you down with me. I'll take Leafsnail down with me. I'll take forsaken down with me. Hopefully, it'll teach you something: Only kill me or find me scum with Power Roles. Because you'll be wrong otherwise. You'll always be wrong, dakarian. Wrong. I'll come up town. Someone will kill you.

I can tell everyone this: If I come up scum, ignore all of this, because it's WIFOM if you don't. Lynch me only if you're willing to kill dakarian, lynch Leafsnail, and scan forsaken. But when I come up town: Kill dakarian. If he's not scum, he's really bad town and deserves the death. Watch forsaken's house, and check his goal (He said he's Kook...). Lynch Leafsnail tomorrow. If you refuse, despite seeing me show town, I will throttle your throats.

Is there anything else you'd wish to say dakarian?
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #398 on: December 11, 2009, 10:20:49 am »

After reading the green, I can say this:

I call your bluff, scum, and don't think you can hide your mates under that WIFOM umbrella.  Tomorrow, they'll be found too.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #399 on: December 11, 2009, 10:24:14 am »

After reading the green, I can say this:

I call your bluff, scum, and don't think you can hide your mates under that WIFOM umbrella.  Tomorrow, they'll be found too.
Deal. Webadict.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #400 on: December 11, 2009, 10:45:35 am »

Webadict, that is total bullshit.  Fucked up WIFOM and vague threats.  Is dakarian scum now, or are you just randomly trying to get him killed?  Oh well, never mind.  Angry jerkadict doesn't listen to reason.  You haven't produced a single genuine reason why you think I'm scum.  It's all "Leafsnail backed down when I threatened him!".  Well, I haven't, and I definately won't now.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #401 on: December 11, 2009, 10:51:37 am »

This day is done then.  Request to End Day.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #402 on: December 11, 2009, 10:54:28 am »

Webadict, that is total bullshit.  Fucked up WIFOM and vague threats.  Is dakarian scum now, or are you just randomly trying to get him killed?  Oh well, never mind.  Angry jerkadict doesn't listen to reason.  You haven't produced a single genuine reason why you think I'm scum.  It's all "Leafsnail backed down when I threatened him!".  Well, I haven't, and I definately won't now.
That is fine. You will be lynched. I was never asking you to back down. Simply asking for you to be lynched.

Request Day End.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #403 on: December 11, 2009, 10:58:49 am »

I call your bluff, scum, and don't think you can hide your mates under that WIFOM umbrella.  Tomorrow, they'll be found too.
The names were you, Leafsnail, and forsaken--All people which you defend. If you think they're scum, you go right ahead and kill them.
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Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 12 - Day 2
« Reply #404 on: December 11, 2009, 11:20:46 am »

The Whiteboard
ExKirby: Neruz
Kashyyk: MagmaDeath
Leafsnail: ToonyMan
Neruz: RedWarrior0, forsaken1111
webadict: Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, dakarian, webadict



Two more requests and I'll end the day early. Otherwise, it goes to 5pm pacific.

@MagmaDeath, are you sure you want to quit? This is about as interesting as a mafia game is going to get!
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