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[webadict]

Well, we should try asking him what he did last Night, because he could have info.

[Mephansteras]

To Meph: Does the exterminator/pandarsenic still win if the operator is in the final two? How does/can the operator meet it's win condition if the exterminator is dead.

Yes, the operative can win without the Exterminator if he can get the game down to just himself and one other. And, yes, both the Operative and the Exterminator win in that case, regardless of which of them is alive at the end.

[ExKirby]

I didn't do anything. I thought all my abilities were one shot.

@Meph-Is it only my NK that's one shot?

[webadict]

I didn't do anything. I thought all my abilities were one shot.

@Meph-Is it only my NK that's one shot?

No, they're all one-shots.

[Mephansteras]

Webadict is correct, all of the Operative's abilities are one-shots.

[dakarian]

@Web

The accusations against you

-the lack of aggression in your hunts

-the changing of your stated Day 1's motivation

- the lack of focus towards hunting scum

- the lack of reasons for deeming people as town.

- Buddying with Jim *

It points to Sidelining Scum wanting to put a show of a hunt early on then changing gears to avoid being committed to anything beyond an easy hit.

The last one is new to the argument, helped by getting a read on Jim finally.  You pushed him hard Day 1 and defend him now leading him to feel relieved that the pressure you had on him is over and him not wanting to attract your notice.  I saw that same trick in BM2.  You push someone soft (Jim) then let go and attack someone they are after (AFD).  At worst it keeps the town on who you want to focus on.  At best it causes the softy to charge at AFD half glad to be out of the spotlight and half glad to be after their would-be killers.

Scum did it all three days of BM2 and after the second day, there was no way for the town to break out of it. 


So no, I don't have you on just Defensiveness.  Not at all. 


Meanwhile

ExKirby... MEH.  He's effectively a SK weakened JOAT.  On the one hand, ChatMafia DOES create SK roles with one kill and they do win on occasion.  Also note that so long as he lives the game won't end since his win condition can still occur.  Along with this, he could be lying scum attempting to dodge a bandwagon and knowing we'll lynch a Survivor.  On the other, he has no real reason to work with either side and he's just about ruined his chances by claiming if he's honest.

It comes down to Meta, almost like how people who already lost but still exist in Parallel operate.  RedWarrior wanted to hurt the town, Eduren tried to help it. 

Myself, I don't see ExKirby willing to be vengeful just for the sake of it.  He IS however capable of fakeclaiming and being awkward in it. 

End result: For now ExKirby is a maybe that can be figured out with his actions later on, so long as we don't let him lurk.  If he's an Operative, I believe he'll help rather than just give us the finger.  If he's lying, we'll find out through future actions.  For today, I'd rather we get back to scumhunting.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
A_Fey_Dwarf: Jim Groovester, webadict
ExKirby: Neruz
Kashyyk: MagmaDeath
Leafsnail: ToonyMan
Neruz: RedWarrior0, forsaken1111
webadict: Leafsnail, dakarian


Reminder: Day 2 ends ~5pm Pacific Today

[Leafsnail]

1. I don't think he's scum.
2. Because he's a moron and not thinking logically.
3. See 2.

But if he's being such a moron, why are you going through every single one of his points and posting a random riposte to it?  Isn't it rather counterproductive to try and throttle debate when we should be scumhunting?

Realistically though, I've already voted and haven't seen a good reason to change my vote. I agree with Toony about Neruz and Leaf. I will continue to watch and participate but right now I have nothing to add. Would you like me to talk about something random?

Why, forsaken?  And why the sudden switch to ExKirby afterwards, who we all know is a very easy lynch?

And speaking of ExKirby... ugh.  It is unlikely that the Operative will win on his own, but then again, he may just kill a random person tonight just to screw us over.  In addition, as long as he's alive, none of us can possibly win.

My vote will remain on webadict, however, until he comes down here and says something useful.  His last two posts had nothing to do with scumhunting, which is very unusual for webadict.

[forsaken1111]

There you go with your safety thing again. We obviously have very different playstyles, because I am willing to take risks where you are not.

[webadict]

1. I don't think he's scum.
2. Because he's a moron and not thinking logically.
3. See 2.

But if he's being such a moron, why are you going through every single one of his points and posting a random riposte to it?  Isn't it rather counterproductive to try and throttle debate when we should be scumhunting?

Realistically though, I've already voted and haven't seen a good reason to change my vote. I agree with Toony about Neruz and Leaf. I will continue to watch and participate but right now I have nothing to add. Would you like me to talk about something random?

Why, forsaken?  And why the sudden switch to ExKirby afterwards, who we all know is a very easy lynch?

And speaking of ExKirby... ugh.  It is unlikely that the Operative will win on his own, but then again, he may just kill a random person tonight just to screw us over.  In addition, as long as he's alive, none of us can possibly win.

My vote will remain on webadict, however, until he comes down here and says something useful.  His last two posts had nothing to do with scumhunting, which is very unusual for webadict.

Are you willing to put your life on the line to say I'm scum?

[forsaken1111]

Sorry if I was unclear by the way, my above was in response to this:

It's the safe option, and is also less delay. If he lies, then we mislynch a townie, then we lynch him in response, if we just lynch him now we don't have to deal with his WIFOM and we don't mislynch a townie.

As a townie, you should be all for avoiding WIFOM, WIFOM is how the scum win and how the town lose, if you start drinking the wine then you lose, because at that point you're playing their game. The fact that you seem to be fine with the truely apocriphical levels of WIFOM involved in ExKirby's claim makes me seriously doubt you, as only the scum are comfortable with WIFOM.

[Leafsnail]

1. I don't think he's scum.
2. Because he's a moron and not thinking logically.
3. See 2.

But if he's being such a moron, why are you going through every single one of his points and posting a random riposte to it?  Isn't it rather counterproductive to try and throttle debate when we should be scumhunting?

Realistically though, I've already voted and haven't seen a good reason to change my vote. I agree with Toony about Neruz and Leaf. I will continue to watch and participate but right now I have nothing to add. Would you like me to talk about something random?

Why, forsaken?  And why the sudden switch to ExKirby afterwards, who we all know is a very easy lynch?

And speaking of ExKirby... ugh.  It is unlikely that the Operative will win on his own, but then again, he may just kill a random person tonight just to screw us over.  In addition, as long as he's alive, none of us can possibly win.

My vote will remain on webadict, however, until he comes down here and says something useful.  His last two posts had nothing to do with scumhunting, which is very unusual for webadict.

Are you willing to put your life on the line to say I'm scum?

Webadict, that's horrible WIFOM right there.  If you're gonna say stuff like that, then yes, I am prepared to put my life on the line.

[forsaken1111]

Why, forsaken?  And why the sudden switch to ExKirby afterwards, who we all know is a very easy lynch?

There was nothing sudden about it. I had been watching those who were lurking and the man posted nothing of merit for an entire day and a half.

[forsaken1111]

I didn't do anything. I thought all my abilities were one shot.

@Meph-Is it only my NK that's one shot?

No, they're all one-shots.

The rules aren't clear whether they can only be used at night, during the day, or any time. Obvious for the night kill but the others say nothing.

[Mephansteras]

They are all night actions. The Operative may only perform one action each night, although he may choose to perform no actions on any given night.

The rules section here and in the discussion thread have been updated.