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[Mephansteras]

Very well. Day has been extended to ~5pm Pacific Thursday

[Jim Groovester]

Alright, dakarian, let's see. Right here is where you planted the seed of suspicion. Essentially, in that post, you were multiplying ExKirby's behavior into something suspicious. It just so happened that this was in response to a vote against webadict. Scum defending scum? Town scumhunting against a poorly reasoned vote? It could be either, really, but it was worth following up on.

I didn't want your help against webadict; I'm a big boy, I can defend myself (Given enough time to make a half-decent post). I asked your opinion because I wanted to gauge your reaction to webadict's behavior. Depending on your response, I would know more about you. This was not the case, however, as your response didn't really mean a whole lot one way or the other.

In fact, I notice that not only do you panic upon one question and a pressure vote, that you also seem content to just hunt after those who are targeting you.

That's not such a bad place to start, is it? I know I'm town, so I'm scumhunting in the direction of the people voting for me. I need to find out whether they're town or not, and quickly, too, so I don't get too focused on them.

If I'm being defensive, it's because people are trying to lynch me for unreasonable reasons. If I'm being reactive, it's because people keep voting for me before I can respond. They are not inherently scum qualities.

Also, what lie are you talking about? I haven't lied, so you're just making things up or misled on the matter.

[RedWarrior0]

Neruz is scum. The end of day one just didn't feel right. An unvote in case Org was survivor with deadman? That's an incredibly scummy move: If Org was what Neruz seemed worried about, that would probably be two townies down the drain. Also, scum try to survive, not town. Yes, his vote wasn't needed, but that doesn't mean it was absolutely necessary to remove it.

[dakarian]

Alright, dakarian, let's see. Right here is where you planted the seed of suspicion. Essentially, in that post, you were multiplying ExKirby's behavior into something suspicious. It just so happened that this was in response to a vote against webadict. Scum defending scum? Town scumhunting against a poorly reasoned vote? It could be either, really, but it was worth following up on.

Adding Pressure on a player to get a read on them.

Btw, if you had a suspicion there why didn't you bring it up at that time?

I didn't want your help against webadict; I'm a big boy, I can defend myself (Given enough time to make a half-decent post). I asked your opinion because I wanted to gauge your reaction to webadict's behavior. Depending on your response, I would know more about you. This was not the case, however, as your response didn't really mean a whole lot one way or the other.

So instead of pushing the matter to try to get a read on me, or getting a feeling that the ExKirby comment was town or scum aligned, you just leave it alone.

Until I vote for you.

In fact, I notice that not only do you panic upon one question and a pressure vote, that you also seem content to just hunt after those who are targeting you.

That's not such a bad place to start, is it? I know I'm town, so I'm scumhunting in the direction of the people voting for me. I need to find out whether they're town or not, and quickly, too, so I don't get too focused on them.

If I'm being defensive, it's because people are trying to lynch me for unreasonable reasons. If I'm being reactive, it's because people keep voting for me before I can respond. They are not inherently scum qualities.

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You say that you're town yet instead of simply explaining yourself you quickly grow defensive and attack those who question you.  When they stop attacking you, you leave them alone.  I note that AFD and I, who both focused on you are targeted, but Web, who hasn't is untouched.


So defensive and scumhunting only enough to push away suspicion.  Are you saying those are bad reasons to focus on someone? 

Also, what lie are you talking about? I haven't lied, so you're just making things up or misled on the matter.

Your questions was why did I ask you about webadict's vote, correct?

...

Then you decided follow webadict's directions without even asking any questions and voted for me.

You note that I DID ask you a question, then turn around and say I didn't ask any questions.


In day 1, meanwhile, you reply to my question by saying that I'm not asking any questions, then say that you have no time to answer any questions.

[ToonyMan]

Neruz, Leafsnail, and webadict.
Are, the dopps.
Maybe Jim and AFD.

Vote Leafsnail.

[ToonyMan]

Also, Pandarsenic is exter----OH WAIII

[Leafsnail]

Neruz, Leafsnail, and webadict.
Are, the dopps.
Maybe Jim and AFD.

Vote Leafsnail.

Hmm?  I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but whatever.  Are you implying that I'm trying for an extremely elaborate bus attempt?

Neruz is scum. The end of day one just didn't feel right. An unvote in case Org was survivor with deadman? That's an incredibly scummy move: If Org was what Neruz seemed worried about, that would probably be two townies down the drain. Also, scum try to survive, not town. Yes, his vote wasn't needed, but that doesn't mean it was absolutely necessary to remove it.

RedWarrior, this looks pretty similar to what I wrote.  It looks like bandwagonning to me.

[ToonyMan]

Neruz is scum. The end of day one just didn't feel right. An unvote in case Org was survivor with deadman? That's an incredibly scummy move: If Org was what Neruz seemed worried about, that would probably be two townies down the drain. Also, scum try to survive, not town. Yes, his vote wasn't needed, but that doesn't mean it was absolutely necessary to remove it.

RedWarrior, this looks pretty similar to what I wrote.  It looks like bandwagonning to me.

So you admit to bandwagoning?

[Leafsnail]

Toony, I was the first person to vote for Neruz.

[ToonyMan]

You dodged the question.

[Leafsnail]

ToonyMan, I don't admit to bandwagonning, since I haven't been doing it.

Is that the answer you were looking for?

[ToonyMan]

Yeah, that must have been a grammar thing.  Because it looked like you admitted to bandwagon there.

"You wrote what I wrote RedWarrior0, what you wrote was bandwagoning."

[RedWarrior0]

Okay, Neruz: What could Org have been planning that would have you "playing into his hands"? No roles have something good happen when lynched. As leaf said, Org would probably have claimed survivor with deadman or Warlock if he was one. Scum tries to survive, town tries to find and kill scum. What you did seemed like trying to survive, not trying to find and kill scum. You couldn't be a survivor, as then you wouldn't have any reason to suspect Org of a deadman. YOU ARE SCUM.

Leaf: Yes, I know it's similar to what you had posted. It's still not the same: You just vaguely implied a possibility for the "playing into his hands" and I have pushed more.

[Neruz]

RedWarrior, absolutely nothing. I told you, it was late, i was tired and i had a bad gut feeling, i acted on that gut feeling without proper forethought due to the aforementioned tiredness, i did a quick check to ensure that my unvote would have no effect on the outcome of the lynch, and then i pulled out.

Logically, looking back with 20/20 hindsight and without my brain clouded by tiredness, i can see it was a really stupid move and that logically Org couldn't do anything to harm me. Unfortunately, emotions won out over that one, not logic.

Or, if you want it even simpler; i made a mistake.


Anyway, back to scumhunting;

Kashyyk, you don't have any unanswered questions? And no new developments have occured today? What? I'm struggling to see how you came to this conclusion.

[dakarian]

While I'm waiting for Jim to reply:

@Mod Prod requests for:

ExKirby and Frelock haven't posted since Day 2 started.

Meanwhile, Webadict, AFD, and Forsaken haven't posted in 24 hours.