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[Leafsnail]

Well, we could wait to see what ExKirby's replacement claims was the result of EK's inspection first.

And to be honest, AFD, we really can't trust the word of a dead serial killer... why don't you tell us something more useful, such as what Janus did on the night he died?  Or webby?  Or even Jim?

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Why would EK use his inspection. As webadict said, he is best off using a nk as it proves his role and that he isn't going to use his night kill at lylo.
I'm not asking you to trust pandarsenics word, I don't trust it myself. But it is information. And why would he want EK killed if he was his operative?

As for the lack of information did you even read my post? There are two mediums in dead chat. Dead players can't give information as one of the mediums is likely scum. This scum medium can very easily relay the information to the dopps without any negative consequences, the town medium can not relay the info to town without claiming medium. Thus when dead it is better to give no information so the dopps can't benefit from it.

[Leafsnail]

What info could the dopps clean from a dead agent, especially with the EA dead and buried?

And, you know what?  I don't think claiming medium at this stage is a town tell.  There's a high chance a genuine town medium would be killed off at this point in the night, wheras a dopp medium would have no such troubles.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Except i hadn't revealed my identity to the dead chat so the dopps didn't know I was the town medium. How is it any more likely a town medium be killed off than any other town role? As for the agent all I know is that he got a town result on n1 but not on who, we decided it was best he not clear anyone and save it till the dopp medium was outed. As that way the dopps can just kill off whoever Janus got town on.

[Neruz]

So i'm going to guess you just claimed Medium AFD. And that there's no useful info in the dead chat.

Lovely.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Well there is useful information if the other medium doesn't counter claim and the dead will know I am the town medium so can pm me the info.

[Neruz]

Unless, of course, you're the scum medium.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Okay listen me out.
Possible situations:
I am scum medium and there is no town medium. The dead would not give me information as they would know I am lieing about two mediums.
I am scum medium and there is a town medium. If that were the case claiming medium as scum would be suicide as the other town medium could counter claim, all information from dead chat would be given to town through both of the mediums. One of us would then be lynched and the scum could night kill a medium who was pretty useless anyway.
I am town medium and the other medium is scum. I claim, the other scum medium could either counter claim or be silent. If the other medium counter claims, dead can send all information to town through both mediums. One of either of us is lynched, if I am lynched you know that the other medium is scum. If the scum medium is lynched then I am town and am probably dead tonight.
Only problem is if we mislynch here town may lose. It all depends on whether ExKirby will play with town or with scum, on other town roles and on the chance of a third alien.

[dakarian]

Meh to web being town, first off.  He acted like full on scum to me.  He still does when I look back at him.

As to AFD's claim, it makes for a very simple situation: either ExKirby lied about being the operative or AFD is lying about being the medium. 

Both claims are ballsy, but Fey is more so since another medium can blow him out of the water by either claiming there was only one or claiming that Pandar never said such a thing.  ExKirby's claim is rather ballsy but it saved his life and makes him less of a threat than a dopp.   Claiming operative seems odd anyway since Operatives can still win if they use their kill wisely and let the town/scum kill each other. 

ExKirby, though we'll be waiting for his replacement instead to explain his side of the story.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Also, Webadict wants a MC, I agree, how we do this I am unsure of but anyone who doesn't want a MC is scum.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Oh, I already knew that. But sense you've come out into the Forum, you're useful. I need you to tell them to LYNCH EXKIRBY. Also, tell dakarian he's scum and so is Leafsnail. In fact, dakarian isn't kicking himself. He should be. He does that when he's wrong but no, he's nonchalant.

So, since the Operative never did a thing, lynch him. LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM! Also, might as well tell them they're morons for lynching me.

Oh yeah, and tell them I'm asking for a full-on claim of everyone's role. If they refuse, tell them it's lynch-worthy. We dead can pretty much confirm a vast majority of their roles.

What he said.

[dakarian]

Meh to that.  I thought I was right there. 


Vigilante.  Didn't act on either night. 

[Neruz]

Well i'm still fine with lynching ExKirby, although i think at the moment that Leafsnail or dakarian are probably more likely to be scum.


dakarian; why didn't you act? You must have had some pretty sure scum feelings last night as least, why didn't you try and take one out?

Also are we mass claiming?

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Neruz yes we are it is essentially mylo as a mislynch will give the scum victory.

Also from janustwoface

Also, I may have been incorrect (not entirely my fault, mis-communication between Meph and I).

I didn't not in fact get a Human result. I got a Dopp result. Problem is, it was on Forsaken, who claimed earlier to be a Kook.

(I scanned him because I had backed him up the first day and wanted to make sure I wasn't backing scum. Died, so that didn't really matter)

Two possibilities:
- is a kook
- is a dopp, hiding behind kookiness

Anyways, do with this what you must.

[Neruz]

Exactly; a mislynch gives the scum victory, but a misvig wouldn't have. dak vigging the wrong person last night would have put us into Lylo (i think? Unless i'm doing my numbers wrong) but Lylo isn't really any worse a place to be in than Mylo.


The dopp result on forsaken is interesting.