Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Talith]

It seems to me, after reading post after post of world seeds and embark spots, that people seem to really like having large cliffs and z levels.  I find that it bugs the hell out of me.  Finding magma, HFS, rivers, and any of the usual things that people want when embarking is rather easy for me, but the real problem is finding a spot that is actually flat, or atleast close to it.  My question is is there anyone else like me, who would rather embark on a nice flat area with all the usual features, and if so, does anyone have any world seeds to share for such a thing?  I know i long for the day when there is some sort of map editor where you can place features exactly where you want them so finding a spot to embark on doesn't take the 2-3 hours that it does now, atleast for me.

[silhouette]

I sorta like flat embark areas.

Depends on the mood im in.

As long as it has a little 1z level above part on the flat level im set.

What i mean is...

. . . .===== . . . .
. . .======  . . . .
. . . . .===== . . .

= is wall
. is flat lands.

As long as there is a bit of a 1zl upland its perfect for me.

[Shades]

Trouble is HFS, Cave Rivers/Pools and Pits/Chasams are features you only find in mountain regions and these tend not to be very flat.

Normal Rivers and Magma should be revlatively easy to find in flat areas, just tell the finder to look for a low height area and you'll probably get a forest / river / magma combo pretty quickly.

Glacier maps tend to be flat too which are Fun. My personal preference would be a mostly Glacier map with just enough mountain squares for the underground features.

[BKWM]

You can get your magma features by upping the minumum volcanism sky high and then killing the mininum required tiles for low-mid-high volcanism. Underground rivers, Underground pools, Chasms, Bottomless Pits, and Clowns spawn one per mountain tile. Be warned high volcanism kills sedimentary stone layers which is where most of your non-goblinite iron ore is, also killing all non-marble flux. So while it should be technically possible to get a non-glacier area with all of that to be flat, good luck, and tell me if you find it.

If all you want is a flat area, and don't care about those other features, get away from the mountains, tab over to the relative elevation screen, and look for 0's.

[Default Settings]

Shape the land to your needs.
Dwarves can move mountains!

[silhouette]

Shape the land to your needs.
Dwarves can move mountains!

But can mountains move dwarves?

[Shades]

Shape the land to your needs.
Dwarves can move mountains!

But can mountains move dwarves?

Depends how violently you collapse them

[Default Settings]

Shape the land to your needs.
Dwarves can move mountains!

But can mountains move dwarves?

Depending on the mountain's innards, it can move dwarves to tears and/or madness.

[Grendus]

Boom.

Yea, I'm a plainsdwarf. HFS and tower cap farms never moved me. Nice, 1 embark tile forts, on the other hand...

[Lordinquisitor]

I prefer flat embark areas.

That`s because i`m one of those "aboveground city builders". And most of the mountainous areas are not really worth it- Often you won`t have soil near your intended starting position and too many cliffs annoy the crap out of me.

However; I don`t mind playing on an interesting mountainous map. Dwarf heaven for example.

[Quietust]

Be warned high volcanism kills sedimentary stone layers which is where most of your non-goblinite iron ore is, also killing all non-marble flux.

It also kills bauxite, your only source of magma-safe mechanisms (unless you're using the molten stones mod or are crazy enough to make mechanisms out of raw adamantine).

[Derakon]

You can get almost-flat embark regions with mountain features. "Mountain" biomes are any areas with an absolute elevation of 300 or above. So if you set your elevation ranges to, say, 285-301, and then reduce the elevation variance, you can get lots of very small, very flat "mountains". This has the added benefit of really packing the mountain features in together, like this:

[Sizik]

Thunderbreakfasts...

[smjjames]

The good stuff bieng limited only to mountains will be remedied in the next version, not to mention the removal of the 15 z-levels from the highest elevation limit. So we will be seeing more plains forts.

I prefer having some flat area available myself.

[Hyndis]

Flat fortress:

http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-6594-snaketributes

I built up from flat ground to construct a very dwarven fortress, complete with magma, water, pumps, and randomly placed levers.