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Author Topic: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball  (Read 41304 times)

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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #210 on: December 28, 2009, 07:24:05 pm »
Okay, Shonus has the leadership and mod. Legendary Lands could be a fun mod.

Is anyone going to take another day? anyone?
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #211 on: December 28, 2009, 11:35:16 pm »
Alrght. I'm going to use Civ Forge Unleashed + Orcs. Naturally, this is going to be a  slow game, with the new version coming out, but I'm still interested. Won't take anothe SG 8 turn, I'll be a bit busy setting IX up. How ablout these rules.

1. Keep the animal population and stone count controlled.
2. You may engrave only underground, unless the outside area is entirely surrounded by walls.
3. Stonefall traps are prohibited. Weapon trapsw are allowed, but only imported and captured weapons are allowed
4. Turtle by permission only.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #212 on: December 29, 2009, 07:51:18 pm »
Engraving, who cares? Stone trap, they are useless, weapon trap, too complex, if you don't want them, just say it ^^

Turtling, with orc, it will be a necessity at the beginning...

I take the third turn, I want to get an early hand on this :)
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #213 on: December 29, 2009, 07:59:29 pm »
I'm going to try to start the 2nd. I'll likely be too dwarfy on the first to play.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #214 on: December 30, 2009, 04:23:25 pm »
Quote from: sir labreck on December 29, 2009, 07:51:18 pm
Engraving, who cares? Stone trap, they are useless, weapon trap, too complex, if you don't want them, just say it ^^

Turtling, with orc, it will be a necessity at the beginning...

I take the third turn, I want to get an early hand on this :)
Agreed, a no turtling rule with Orcs is ultimately not realistic (unless maybe you changed their triggers in the entity file to make them come later).   Also, keep in mind there are a lot of friendly civs in CivForge who come year-round, so there is already an in-game penalty for turtling.  Meanwhile, given that Orcs are trapavoid and none of the enemies in CivForge are tough enough to need traps, I say they can be banned entirely (except for maybe a small number of cage traps to capture a few prisoners/tameable animals).
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #215 on: December 30, 2009, 07:20:10 pm »
What I'm experimenting with atm is swapping orcs and goblins, by giving the Orcs names, [babysnatcher], etc. and removing same from the goblins, then swapping the progress triggers. I'm having a little troble making it work though. THe gobbos keep going extinct.

As for traps, I like them, but they're so easy to abuse, I decided to look for a compromise. Cage traps are single shot and require a steady supply of cages, while importation is a bit of a chancy way to supply traps. (Capture is more problematic still, because without traps, a strong force is needed.

Maybe we shouldn't worry too much about turtling. It has contibuted to the lack of epicness in the more recent sparkgears.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #216 on: December 30, 2009, 08:01:48 pm »
Quote from: Lord Shonus on December 30, 2009, 07:20:10 pm
What I'm experimenting with atm is swapping orcs and goblins, by giving the Orcs names, [babysnatcher], etc. and removing same from the goblins, then swapping the progress triggers. I'm having a little troble making it work though. THe gobbos keep going extinct.
That's a good idea... try changing the goblins' ethics to outlaw murdering (or at least discourage it, e.g. with MISGUIDED).
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #217 on: December 30, 2009, 08:11:39 pm »
I was considering adding a littersize to their raws, but demurdering them might work.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #218 on: December 30, 2009, 08:25:52 pm »
In my experience litersize makes little difference, although lowering the child age does.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #219 on: December 30, 2009, 08:40:12 pm »
Littersize does appear to affect how many children total may be born in world gen; worlds with orcs set to littersize 100 get completely overrun, while in worlds where their littersize is the default they get slaughtered by my giant cave spider civ right off the bat.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #220 on: December 31, 2009, 03:09:40 am »
Just a little testing left to do, but I'm pretty sure I finally got the goblin horde working. It took LITTERSIZE 50:100 and KILL FACTION MEMBER: UNTHINKABLE, but it seems to be working. If this pans out, I'll start the new thread.

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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #221 on: December 31, 2009, 04:47:14 am »
Sparkgear IX already? This is going fast.
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #222 on: December 31, 2009, 07:56:20 pm »
Quote from: Mraedis on December 31, 2009, 04:47:14 am
Sparkgear IX already? This is going fast.

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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #223 on: January 01, 2010, 12:23:43 am »
Doesn't stop you though does it?
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Re: Sparkgear VIII - Behind the Eight Ball
« Reply #224 on: January 02, 2010, 01:15:33 am »
Excuse me, but we're not compensating. We make one a month, and we're starting on the ninth month.
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