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[Dwarf]

The US haven't won any wars as far as I can see, didn't join ww2 til the end, lost vietnam, lost afghanistan, lost iraq, and probably lost every other war they need to be in continuously. What does that leave, dropping a nuke on a city? Hoorah! If the US was well-trained or courageous it wouldn't need the threat of nuclear warfare. Who's afraid of a bunch of wacko scientists anyway?

Edit: fuck it, I shouldn't disregard the courage the US has shown in its conflicts, if the US can kick the shit out of the world, so be it.

This is substandard trolling F- see me after class!

Naw, that's true. Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam have very much been (or are currently) failures. Ending with many dead and nothing reached.

[umiman]

The generals in the US army also talked about how everyone expects them to do everything. Don't harm civilians but root out the insurgents hiding among civilians. Expand the defense while using less troops. Get better results but use less money. Don't scare the technology-fearing locals who don't even understand how microwaves work but use super high-tech weaponry to reduce the dependence on live soldiers. Train local soldiers to police their own nation but make sure they don't become radicals themselves. I'll bet that if they only had one objective and the public would stop getting into hissy fits all the time, the military would have been able to do much better jobs. Of course, that's impossible in this day and age.

I believe Nilocy gave a link once about how the other nations involved in peacekeeping efforts complained about how the US treats the soldiers of other countries like unwanted individuals. Keeping them out of the loop, ordering them around, generally lording all over them. Maybe that's other nations shifting the blame or the US military has to seriously look into getting more sensitivity training for its staff...

Everyone likes the Canadian army though. Maybe it's because the US military is taking all the blame.

[Nadaka]

America has indeed lost one official war. It was the most brutal war we ever fought, millions of American soldiers and civilians were slaughtered. It was the first war to use mechanize industrial killing machines. America also won that same war.

[zchris13]

OH! OH! I KNOW!! *waves hand wildly*

[Neonivek]

On the contrary

No one wins a Civil war. That is why they are so tragic.

Though America has lost a war against Canada. (War of 1812?)

There are also a few other wars such as Gulf and Vietnam that you could have considered lost.

[zchris13]

We didn't actually lose that war.  And wasn't it against England?  And sortof really really strange?

[Neonivek]

We didn't actually lose that war.  And wasn't it against England?  And sortof really really strange?

Well I know little about it.

Though to my knowledge both sides considered themselves the victor.

[userpay]

On the contrary

No one wins a Civil war. That is why they are so tragic.

Though America has lost a war against Canada. (War of 1812?)

There are also a few other wars such as Gulf and Vietnam that you could have considered lost.

Um did you not see the link that was posted earlier about what offical wars the US have been in?

[Neonivek]

Well then the Civil war doesn't count either.

Since a Civil war cannot really be official

[irreversiblycynical]

The only efficient way to win a guerrilla war is to kill everything not wearing your uniform, but we can't really do that. We should probably give up in any situation where the conflict devolves into that.

[zchris13]

And some things that ARE wearing our uniform.

[Hawkfrost]

Everyone likes the Canadian army though. Maybe it's because the US military is taking all the blame.

In my opinion, Canada only has one thing in war; we have some of the best snipers.
So, Canadian troops aren't usually the ones busting down doors and pissing off the owners of said doors.

[userpay]

Well then the Civil war doesn't count either.

Since a Civil war cannot really be official

*shrugs* That is sort of different I suppose since we wern't fighting a foriegn nation, plus wasn't the civil war before we had an actual Congress?

[zchris13]

No.  The civil war was a long time after we had a congress.

[userpay]

No.  The civil war was a long time after we had a congress.

Hmm well I can't remember if Congress had the power to declare war from the beginning or if it was gained at a later date anyway.