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Author Topic: Twilight "Vampires"  (Read 31927 times)

Chutney

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Re: Twilight "Vampires"
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2009, 08:02:31 pm »

You know, only the one group of vampires didn't drink blood in Twilight. A minority of a minority. Sure, they all have the sparkly thing but they also are bloodthirsty, some of them monsters. A major theme in the movies(probably the books, too) is the one "family" overcoming their bloodlust to live amongst humans and also not feed on them. The "Voltorre"(or however it's spelled) in this latest movie are the same vampiric monsters we've all seem before (the end of the scene with them has them luring a group of tourists into their throne room type area to slaughter and feed off of them).
Basically the Twilight vampires are not so far off from regular vampires, it's mostly just the Cullen family that's supposed to redesign(or whatever Meyer's intent was) vampires.
The movies could probably actually be pretty good if the actors weren't so (mostly purposely, from what I can tell) bad. Oh, and if the cinematography was better in some of the scenes. Source material, however, is terrible and always will be. The movies have the advantage of being able to pick and choose/reinterpret scenes so they don't come off as "RAPE IS GOOD!" or "WOMEN SUCKRULE!". (Neonivek brings up a good point that what most of us perceive as misogyny may very well be a poorly-made statement about the strength of women)
If only they had chosen to do some of the creepy stalking stuff better...
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Neonivek

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« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2009, 08:06:20 pm »

Women don't suck, that isn't what the books say.

The books say that women should be happy with what they got and not to take spousal abuse seriously.

Afterall how many times has Bella been in a "You couldn't possibly survive this!" situation or "This is impossible" and survived/ignored? I counted maybe 3-4 in just two books.

If that doesn't say "Women have what it takes to live with abuse" then what does?
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Jackrabbit

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« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2009, 08:10:38 pm »

Women Are Useless would be better than Women Suck, I think. Or at least Women Seem To Become Suspiciously Less Useful When The Boys Are Around.
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Neonivek

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« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2009, 08:13:20 pm »

Women Are Useless would be better than Women Suck, I think. Or at least Women Seem To Become Suspiciously Less Useful When The Boys Are Around.

What that isn't true! What about when Bella did... uhhh...

What about that other woman?

Hmm your right... Women don't seem to be able to do squat in Twilight other then take abuse and cover their wounds.
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Jackrabbit

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« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2009, 08:14:55 pm »

And then there's that girl who had a thing for Bella, one of the Cullen girls. She can predict the weather and kick the boys asses. Sometimes.

It's like she's got a faulty on/off button.
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Neonivek

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« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2009, 08:17:38 pm »

Yeah but she seems to easily break down when push comes to shove.

A little bump in the road and even she cries for Bella

Assuming it is the woman I am thinking of.
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Re: Twilight "Vampires"
« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2009, 08:27:43 pm »

I dunno if the author is trying to be sexist.  Probably just putting out her traditionalist views in a pretty moronic way.
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Neonivek

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« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2009, 08:35:17 pm »

It could be that she just doesn't care about progressitism and more into fanservice.

Which in a way could mean she is years ahead of her time.

I mean how often do you see Girly Girls who arn't witches or a parody anymore?

Then again I am giving too much credit to the author who basically put herself into a book (She is Bella Swan!)
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« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2009, 08:39:32 pm »

False:

Bella is an empty shell for the reader to project her own personality upon.

Bella is everyone.
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Neonivek

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« Reply #69 on: November 27, 2009, 08:42:56 pm »

False:

Bella is an empty shell for the reader to project her own personality upon.

Bella is everyone.

Her personality is a blank

Her apperance is that of the authors.
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ibot66

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« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2009, 08:48:18 pm »

False:

Bella is an empty shell for the reader to project her own personality upon.

Bella is everyone.

Her personality is a blank

Her apperance is that of the authors.
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« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2009, 08:49:34 pm »

I'm suddenly realizing that if I were going to write a book making fun of Twilight, that means I'd have to actually read it first.  And I get the impression that it's pretty awful.  What a conundrum.
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« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2009, 08:51:47 pm »

Isn't there a cliffnotes somewhere?

I'm surprised, that as large as the twilight fandom purportedly is, that not a single genuine fan has dropped by to espouse his/her feelings towards it.
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ibot66

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« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2009, 08:53:16 pm »

As an avid reader, I hate to say this, but just read the wikipedea article.
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Re: Twilight "Vampires"
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2009, 09:06:43 pm »

Hey guys, guess what I'm doing this weekend?

This semester, I wanted to polish off my English-credits requirement, with the last open literature class.  Late 19th century Gothic.  The first book was Bram Stoker's Dracula.  And now we come to the final paper.  I have an option between analyzing some other Gothic text of my choosing (lame), or... making up my own narrative.  I don't actually have to write a book or anything, just a five page blurb and discussion about my concept.


I don't actually have an ending or many specifics figured out, but I thought you guys might enjoy it.  Thoughts?
Stephen King did this.
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