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Author Topic: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?  (Read 2249 times)

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Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« on: November 23, 2009, 01:10:32 pm »

I'm building a huge, hollow hammer outside my gate, connected to a single support which will "drop the hammer" on invaders when a lever is pulled. Since there is no Magma on my map, I'm filling it with Rhesus Macaques instead.

Question: If I set it up so that the monkeys are just trapped in an open pit inside the hammer, with NO roof over them (ie: nothing above them to collapse onto them), can they survive when the hammer drops and deconstructs?

The way I picture it happening... an invading force closes in on my gate, I pull the lever and drop the hammer on them, it crushes several and the dust-cloud knocks most of the others unconcious... and while they're helpless, the monkeys steal all of their weapons!
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 01:18:43 pm »

The fall might harm the monkeys, but otherwise I don't see any immediate problems.

Occasionally when I set off a cave-in right next to somebody, they were damaged even though they didn't fall any levels and they weren't under the cave-in. I was collapsing with ice rocks, so I don't know if that is a property exclusive to that or not.

In any case, you might give the monkeys a bit of room from any walls you plan on collapsing.
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 01:19:26 pm »

The monkeys won't be crushed, but they will be stunned and probably injured.  I don't know if they'll actually steal weapons from the invaders.  Even so you should build it anyway as the idea of collapsing a hammer full of monkeys on invaders is awesome.
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 02:31:04 pm »

Occasionally when I set off a cave-in right next to somebody, they were damaged even though they didn't fall any levels and they weren't under the cave-in.

I've seen this happen as well - it's possible the cave-in dust pushed them hard enough that they slammed into a wall or tree.
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 03:35:18 pm »

... and while they're helpless, the monkeys steal all of their weapons!
The fall might harm the monkeys...

The monkeys won't be crushed, but they will be stunned and probably injured.

So we'll end up with Rhesus pieces?  ;D
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 05:00:03 pm »

This is a iron hammer, it is encircled with spikes of rhesus macaques and it is encircled with bands of OWNAGE
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 05:17:32 pm »

The way you're describing, it sounds like you're more likely to crush and outright kill your enemies with the cave-in, and likewise cover their bodies with the floor that's holding up the monkeys.  Then you just have a bunch of stunned, possibly broken monkeys lying around.  Unless I have the wrong mental image of your design...
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 05:56:41 pm »

and likewise cover their bodies with the floor that's holding up the monkeys.
Only if it's made of natural walls.
Natural floors will vanish (???) and artificial walls and floors deconstruct.

I'm not sure what would happen, to be honest.
Give it a try and tell us what happened, like a true dwarf!
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 06:12:48 pm »

A possible alternative that would have the same effect but not be quiiite as dwarfy:

1. Build the hammer hollow, but fill it with magma. When the cave-in occurs, the magma will explode as if out of nowhere.

2. Build the hammer without anything inside - but below the drop point, have an exit passage from the monkey holding chambers that gets destroyed upon fallage, allowing the monkeys to run out into the ruins once the dust has settled.

3. Both. Enjoy your flaming monkey dancers.

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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2009, 01:37:59 pm »

A possible alternative that would have the same effect but not be quiiite as dwarfy:

1. Build the hammer hollow, but fill it with magma. When the cave-in occurs, the magma will explode as if out of nowhere.

2. Build the hammer without anything inside - but below the drop point, have an exit passage from the monkey holding chambers that gets destroyed upon fallage, allowing the monkeys to run out into the ruins once the dust has settled.

3. Both. Enjoy your flaming monkey dancers.

Dammit, now I have to build a giant hammer and fill it with magma, and let it fallthrough floor hatches onto my enemies' heads. As a bonus, it will be easy to reload.
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 03:08:08 pm »

A possible alternative that would have the same effect but not be quiiite as dwarfy:

1. Build the hammer hollow, but fill it with magma. When the cave-in occurs, the magma will explode as if out of nowhere.

2. Build the hammer without anything inside - but below the drop point, have an exit passage from the monkey holding chambers that gets destroyed upon fallage, allowing the monkeys to run out into the ruins once the dust has settled.

3. Both. Enjoy your flaming monkey dancers.


...Since there is no Magma on my map, I'm filling it with Rhesus Macaques instead.


 :-\
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 04:52:22 pm »

...Since there is no Magma on my map, I'm filling it with Rhesus Macaques instead.


 :-\

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I kind of thought the monkeys were just for the randomness of it. I suppose that makes a little more sense.

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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2009, 07:49:36 pm »

A possible alternative that would have the same effect but not be quiiite as dwarfy:

1. Build the hammer hollow, but fill it with magma. When the cave-in occurs, the magma will explode as if out of nowhere.

2. Build the hammer without anything inside - but below the drop point, have an exit passage from the monkey holding chambers that gets destroyed upon fallage, allowing the monkeys to run out into the ruins once the dust has settled.

3. Both. Enjoy your flaming monkey dancers.


...Since there is no Magma on my map, I'm filling it with Rhesus Macaques instead.


 :-\
Well, there's still #2.
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2009, 08:18:28 pm »

What's more fun than a hammer-full of monkeys?   :D
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Re: Project Monkey-Hammer... will this actually work?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 11:14:21 pm »

Two hammers full of insane traders.

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