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[Zai]

Some of these older mafias look like they were really fun.

All of the games were fun.

All of them.

[webadict]

Some of these older mafias look like they were really fun.

paranormals, kingmaker, and one of the DF mafias(The one with the sly elf) seem to be really awesome games to me.

We knew how to make a Mafia game back then.

I guess technically, we still do, but it sounds cooler if it's said like that.

[JanusTwoface]

Blorgh.

This subforum is currently miserable.  Games are dying and inactive.  We have only one game in signups, and it's almost full.  A lot of our regulars are missing.  The queue is empty.  No one is running off to mod.

So.  What are we going to run?  What do people want to play?  In a phrase, how do you think we should approach this situation?

Let me say in advance that I will join almost anything at this point, just to bring attendance up again.  I don't care if the mod is inexperienced, as long as they've played a couple games.  There have been worse catastrophes than inexperienced mods.

The problem isn't that we don't have enough games, the problem is that too many people are signing up for games and not bothering to play them.  The main reason I haven't bothered to actually put Sorcerer's Apprentice into sign-ups is that I don't know if there are enough active people left to make it interesting.

[ToonyMan]

I'm in like 3 games right now, I don't like pushing past that.

[Zathras]

The problem isn't that we don't have enough games, the problem is that too many people are signing up for games and not bothering to play them.

This is very true. A lurky game really detracts from the fun. But it's not the only problem. Not to point fingers or anything, but it's hard to keep interest in a game if it takes a week and a half to process night actions, Pandar, or even as little (!) as four or five days, Web. This only encourages people to be lurkier, and diminishes your standing to be able to then tell them not to lurk. Thus people lurk, making for fewer active games, and those become less fun.

I don't know how to fix this, but I'm sure actually running with the games and players we do have would be a good step. For other things, actually modkilling people for lurking will either make at least some games active, euthanize others faster, and possibly create a culture where all, even new players, grow accustomed to either show up or be lynched or modkilled. There are a lot of fun games ten or fifteen active people can have, and that very activity will generate a trickle of new players wandering through. The first time they are lynched or modkilled for lurking, they'll understand that to join that group, they have to be active.


Just sayin'. Yes, it sucks, but you partly created it with pavlovian responses. It may be necessary to train the dog to press the other button.


But never mind. Carry on. Navel-gazing is almost as fun.

[JanusTwoface]

Oh, I completely agree with you.  My favorite mod is Mephansteras for precisely that reason.  You'll always know when the deadlines are (close enough anyways) and he gets the days up quickly.  Pretty much the only games I'm playing in nowadays.

[Zathras]

Oh, I completely agree with you.  My favorite mod is Mephansteras for precisely that reason.  You'll always know when the deadlines are (close enough anyways) and he gets the days up quickly.  Pretty much the only games I'm playing in nowadays.

Yeah... I actually came here first hoping to join a paranormal or supernatural game, but just my luck, it was full back then, and then he launched that wizard duel thing with which I was utterly unfamiliar, so I didn't want to join it. I can't wait for it to be over so I can hopefully join in some alien-killing-dopp fun.

Props to Meph... I hope to play a game of yours soon. But the suggestion of modkilling lurkers stands for you too.

[Zai]

I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?

It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.

And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.

[Spade]

I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?

It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.

And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.

Would I be welcome? 

[Zai]

I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?

It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.

And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.

Would I be welcome? 

Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?

[Spade]

I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?

It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.

And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.

Would I be welcome? 

Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?

I'm in the BM and have played alot of epic mafia. If that counts.

[webadict]

Oh, I completely agree with you.  My favorite mod is Mephansteras for precisely that reason.  You'll always know when the deadlines are (close enough anyways) and he gets the days up quickly.  Pretty much the only games I'm playing in nowadays.

Yeah... I actually came here first hoping to join a paranormal or supernatural game, but just my luck, it was full back then, and then he launched that wizard duel thing with which I was utterly unfamiliar, so I didn't want to join it. I can't wait for it to be over so I can hopefully join in some alien-killing-dopp fun.

Props to Meph... I hope to play a game of yours soon. But the suggestion of modkilling lurkers stands for you too.

To be fair, they show up and post every once in a while. I think there needs to be a definitive list of requirements for modkilling.

[Zai]

I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?

It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.

And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.

Would I be welcome? 

Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?

I'm in the BM and have played alot of epic mafia. If that counts.

Then yeah, you should be fine.

[Spade]

Bastard is when we don't know all the rules, right?

[Zai]

Bastard is when we don't know all the rules, right?

It varies from game to game, but typically yes.

This is mostly just a closed setup game; you won't know any roles beside your own.