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[axus]

I'm not sure if this happens already, but I think stone that is melted in magma should turn into generic magma and increase the volume of magma.  This would be a slow way to get more magma, and get rid of your stone.

[Alfador]

quote:Originally posted by axus:
<STRONG>I'm not sure if this happens already, but I think stone that is melted in magma should turn into generic magma and increase the volume of magma.  This would be a slow way to get more magma, and get rid of your stone.</STRONG>

Makes sense to me!! Though we should avoid the same business where ice always melts into 7/7 water no matter how much of it there is. A rock made by mining out a whole tile would probably fill 7/7 (or 5 or 6, considering it's no longer filling the *entire* tile) magma, while a small rock mug would fill like 2/7.

[Align]

Considering how much rock you get that'd mean your magma channel would overflow after 20-30 rocks unless you let the magma spill off somewhere..

[THLawrence]

quote:Originally posted by Align:
<STRONG>Considering how much rock you get that'd mean your magma channel would overflow after 20-30 rocks unless you let the magma spill off somewhere..</STRONG>

That means you have to be more careful. Having your magma channel overflow would be the player's fault if that happened.

Love the idea. Anything to kill off these waves in the magma.

[beorn080]

My only problem with this is that when i mine out my magma channels for forges and such like there is often an almost solid layer of rock left.  If this rock added 5 or 6 units to the magma it would probably overflow.  Maybe make it so that rocks add 1 or 2 units of magma since i think 1 unit of magma can be used to make 1 unit of obsidian.  If you then let that obsidian be thrown back in for 5 or 6 units you would have an easily renewable fairly valuable crafting material.

[axus]

Yeah I was thinking lower amounts of magma, like 2 but it could be tweaked  

[rkyeun]

Well, that's why you should melt your stone items into magma by tossing it into the TOP of the volcano, not your smelter's access channel.

[Nate879]

I think it should be possible to get magma from heating up rock a lot, even if there is no magma on the map.  This would let maps with no magma get small amounts of magma eventually.

[Fenrir]

quote:Originally posted by Nate879:
<STRONG>I think it should be possible to get magma from heating up rock a lot, even if there is no magma on the map.  This would let maps with no magma get small amounts of magma eventually.</STRONG>

Like how?!

[Sergius]

What we really should have is magma eruptions that make the magma level go up every so often, even to the point of overflowing a bit and rolling downhill burning some stuff. That'd be fun, and would also replenish magma vents.

BTW anyone know where those weird pockets of magma come from and how come they stay hot? My current fortress has a covered "volcano" that only goes about 4 levels down, and has normal rock the remaining 20-ish levels below it.

[Eagle of Fire]

quote:Like how?!

Dwarves of D&D Dragon Lance use huge lens in sun pits. They heat a big pit for a whole day and they end up with enough magma to last about a year. But it cool down eventually because there is no heat source like magma pits we have right now, so they have to do it each years.

That would be a great use of glass IMHO.

[Tahin]

The lens idea seems a bit too.... fantasyish. I've always seen Dwarf Fortress as only having fantasy elements when they can potentially hurt the player, such as dragons attacking you, and the fact that you play as really short dudes that can't stand up well in a fight.

However, various objects dumped into magma increasing it's volume is an excellent idea. Shouldn't be 7/7, though. Maybe 2/7 or 3/7 per boulder.

[Eagle of Fire]

When I was saying lens... I forgot to mention that they are gigantic lens. They would take at the very minimum about 5 squares radius big in DF...  

[Torak]

quote:Originally posted by Eagle of Fire:
<STRONG>
Dwarves of D&D Dragon Lance</STRONG>

Exactly. It's impossible to do, for one, and this is Dwarf Fort, not Dungeons and Dragons.

[Eagle of Fire]

Is it really impossible to do? I said len, they use the hell of a lot of them and everytime it's referenced in the books it's referenced as an incredible construction.

Some youngsters use lens to heat up insects for fun... Would it really be that impossible in real life to use lens to heat up rocks enough so they begin to liquefy?

Of course, IRL we'd have way better methods than lens to do it if we really wanted to... But still.