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The Architect

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Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« on: November 13, 2009, 09:57:22 pm »

Hi. I have a dwarf who appears to have been struck blind for no reason. At first I thought it was just an effect of sun-sickness which I did not know about, but I can't find anything about that anywhere. For now, I've named him Tiresias and his job description is The Blind Prophet. The only known cause for blindness like that would be wrestling afaik, but he's never participated in any such activity. Could a raccoon have done it? (He doesn't have any kills and they have been around lately. Beside that, I know for a fact about every goblin and kobold encounter, as they all resulted in a dwarf dying or a goblin dying. He has never sparred. He wasn't blinded by wrestling.) Of course the first time he showed up blind I checked his history, but he only had a very old "he was attacked" on there. Could be wildlife, but it's all peaceful so far. Nothing has been smoking afaik either.

The most likely cause for the blindness is simply that I missed an event.

However, Tiresias is always gumming up my fort by falling unconscious. He is Tough, but it seems that his "wound" of severed eyes causes him to constantly pass out. He doesn't have any internal wounds, and of course he can't rest severed eyes. He has no pain.

Is it normal for a severed external part to cause a dwarf to fall unconscious? I hate to do it to him, but Tiresias is currently a useless pain in my *** and I may kill him if this is a bug. I micromanage pretty heavily so that no one stands around with No Job for days at a time, and if I see Idlers never go to 0 for a few minutes I check the list. It annoys me to no end that Tiresias is always making me look at him.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2009, 10:15:12 pm »

Most likely a wildlife attack. IIRC any attack on a dwarf's head can potentially cause damage to the eyes, but I don't know how it works. He's falling unconscious because severing the eyes causes pain and it's causing him to faint. I recommend building a pump (doesn't have to actually be over water) and having him turn that to build up his toughness attribute, which should make him faint less. He's blind for good though.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 10:50:15 pm »

are you sure he didn't just drink himself blind?

or see something worthy of gouging his own eyes out for?
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2009, 11:11:16 pm »

Make him a Pump operator, or lock him in a room where he can do one job constantly to get stat gains up.

That won't cure blindness, but hey, least he won't be going "OH GOD MY EYES!" constantly. After that, you can get him to do things a proper blind dwarf should do, like learn to use a crossbow.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2009, 11:25:41 pm »

I thought I could fix his "OMG EYES!" problem by assigning him a private shop to make blocks forever, but he's such a wimp he can't even walk to it yet. A pump with adjacent living quarters sounds like a good idea.

On the other hand, he's the record keeper now so his stats should skyrocket relatively quickly. Thanks for the suggestions!
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 12:28:08 am »

what sort of biome are you in? I understand that a cold(or hot) enough biome can cause damage to a dwarf's external parts, eyes included.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 12:30:59 am »

Nay, temperate and with no signs of Pain in his Wounds list. That is what made me wonder why eyes would drive someone unconscious. It's not like he has a punctured lung or anything.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 07:34:34 am »

That is what made me wonder why eyes would drive someone unconscious. It's not like he has a punctured lung or anything.
One way to settle this would be to pierce your own eyes and then see whether or not you pass out.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 07:46:24 am »

Except he is bound to feel pain, and the dwarf doesn't.
You'd better squint more, maybe there is "extreme confusion" written in very small letters in grey font in his wounds list!
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 07:58:45 am »

Well I didn't see that, but when I looked at his General page it said "Provide Annoyance" in small light blue letters. He's been at it for almost a year now, but he hasn't gotten a stat from Competent Pump Operator and it will take him forever to gain experience even at that job when he is constantly passing out.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 09:26:15 am »

I vote water treatment. Just lock him in a room with 4/7 water for awhile, let him out when he needs food. As for the cause... I've had a raccoon kill an armed soldier before, I'm sure one could gouge someones eyes out.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 02:32:47 pm »

I know Im repetitive with the answers for questions like these, but if it bothers you that much, go with this: Dwarven Amputation
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 04:26:46 pm »

No. I don't want to have all of my dwarves blind, thank you.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 06:36:04 pm »

You misunderstand. You take away their eyes, then give them back. They'll all be given perfectly unharmed eyes when you add them back in. It's a bit cheaty though.
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Re: Dwarf Blind for no known reason?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2009, 08:36:47 pm »

You misunderstand. You take away their eyes, then give them back. They'll all be given perfectly unharmed eyes when you add them back in. It's a bit cheaty though.

The method is to edit the body_default.txt, remove their eyes, load the game, save, then put their eyes back in and then play. It instantly "heals" everyones eyes. It is a bit cheaty, but if this is really bothering you that much, just do it. Or kill the dwarf.
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