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OneRaven

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How do raws work?
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:18:39 pm »

I've been wondering for a while, and figured I'd finally ask. How do raws work? How does the game assemble an item from the tags in a plain-text file? It's such a wonderfully modding method because it's amateur-friendly and quite intuitive once you learn your way around. Seeing the complexity of the whole thing makes me wonder what's under the hood.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but the modding forums seemed the best bet.
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 10:41:33 pm »

I don't know the raw parser code, but what I've noticed so far it checks the first word of the filename to determine what kinda things it should expect inside.  Possibly using that header at the top of the file instead of the actual filename.  Then the second header in the brackets tells the parser EXACTLY what data to expect.

Then it goes through the text file line by line ignoring everything not enclosed in brackets.  Lower tags overwrite higher ones in case of conflict.  If it encounters something in brackets it doesn't recognize it copies the offending entry to the errorlog.

Then it turns everything it recognized into a data file in objects/data that the game can read easier on the fly.  It does all this on every startup of the game.
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 12:06:45 pm »

Brain break.  :o
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 05:20:27 pm »

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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 06:54:47 pm »

The only "hard" thing there should be a parser, besides that, it doesn't matter which kind of input do you have, some graphical UI or a text code, because in the end it's all about the data which is fed to the engine, and Toady is not going to release it open-sourced thus you won't get an answer to your question.
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 10:09:02 pm »

Actually, now that I think of it, wasn't the raw parser in Battle Champs?

It had raw files just like DF, just with fewer tags.

EDIT: Hell I even remember modding my copy.
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 11:22:48 pm »

Where can I get Battle Champs?
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 10:29:09 am »

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=23442.msg261144#msg261144

Figured it would be easy to find. Ha. A half hour of my life later I found it :)
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Re: How do raws work?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 01:45:29 pm »

The only "hard" thing there should be a parser, besides that, it doesn't matter which kind of input do you have, some graphical UI or a text code, because in the end it's all about the data which is fed to the engine, and Toady is not going to release it open-sourced thus you won't get an answer to your question.

My assumption is that the game assembles the parsed data into objects. I don't know enough about C/C++ to create objects on the fly (rather than as part of the code) but I assume what happens is that the objects for the items/materials/creatures/etc are created and saved as easier-to-read data files? Looks like I'll have to learn more about C++, rather than the raws themselves.
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