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[Org]

Org: Are you only following something someone else said? Or have you thought about it?

Maybe censorship isn't a day 1 priority, but rather than transparency I'd still more like
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Thought about it.

Org... Rooster... Who do you think is scum?

Dont know, but where is Mr. person? Kinda lurking, and he usually does not lurk

[Pandarsenic]

Mr.Person got modkilled in Dak's KWN and put up for replacement in my upick.

[Leafsnail]

I've prodded him too.

[Humaan]

Sorry, I can't exactly get to the computer that often, due to me starting to prepare for finals.

So, I am now Out, meaning you need a Replacement

[Kashyyk]

Alex:

I chose Censorship to liberalize as we will then all know our roles. Therefore, even if the Scum conservatize Censorship again we will STILL know our roles, so there is no point in the Scum conservatizing it. Also, as we have not yet liberalized anything else, the Scum won't be able to conservatize anything, thus we gain a free liberalization.

Also, while I'm still online, are there any other questions people want to ask me?

[Leafsnail]

Replacement requested.

[Rooster]

Alex: That would be easier in a 9 people game. So far I think Mr.Person might be scum (omg newbie just pointed at a lurker!) and Ex Kirby (He just acted weird but I'm unsure what whas a scumtell and what a townietell)

Logically a lurker would be scum, but hey! most scum know about this therefore only newb scum would do so I think.

[ExKirby]

Dak, I just want people to be here.  I'm not in any other mafias with Mr.Person, so the only evidence I had was that he posted, and then stopped posting.  I'll admit, I didn't go to his profile to see when he last logged on or anything like that.  I just noticed your comment for the mod, and expounded on it a little.

Exkirby, since you refused to answer my question, I'll vote you until you do.  I've asked twice, and now I'll ask again: why are you voting for archangel?  You said you had a reason, though you claimed it wasn't a strong one.  What is it?

@Frelock-I think dak pretty much nailed that point for me.

@Rooster-Read this quote.

My bad, I thought we were done.

@Mod, please ignore the second half of my post.

[Frelock]

Wait, what did dak point out about archangel?  This was the post right before yours:

The mess, though, is that we[Dak and Alex] banged heads in almost the same fashion in bay 12.  He[Alex] got panicky when I attacked him then and got worse as the day went on.

So, yes, the argument he gave is Meh, but it's his personality so for now I'll leave be. 


@Frelock

Mr.Person isn't lurking: he's not here.  He ended up modkilled from KWN (it has a 24h hard coded posting requirement) and prodded in other games he was in.  Humaan looks like he's flaking completely.  The only person who isn't a LurkerHunt on your list of suspects didn't even get a FOS.

Going for the easy kills eh?

In it, he talks about and to Alexhans and myself.  Archangel is not even mentioned.  In fact looking at Dak's previous posts, he was first on you due to the whole day shortening thing, then he was on alex, and finally backed down before the fur started flying like in B12 mafia.  Currently, he's on me.  So again I ask, why are you voting for archangel?

[ExKirby]

Warning guys..  When Alex and I get at it, it turns BRUTAL!

@Alex, if you like to argue more, go ahead and read.  The end statement that matters most is after the Spoilered text.

Spoiler: argument in spoilers to avoid killing everyone in WOT (click to show/hide)

Let's see.  A good long post talking about how you have no time to vote during RandomVoting when you shouldn't NEED a reason to get something started...

lol... good long... I wrote that in 10 seconds...  I random voted Org... Guess you failed to see that.

So instead of a person you see is actually 'scummy' you keep your vote on your random pick.

Personally, once I start flinging the term, 'scummy' I try to put my vote there.

When I turn my slightly random with a bit of content vote on you, suddenly it's "OMG YOU'RE TRYING TO KILL ME!" 

Bullshit.  Expect to see this word often in this post.  You voted me for bullshit reasons in a serious manner

Yes I did.  Most people reply with a Bullshit answer to a Bullshit question.  Scum sometimes reply to a Bullshit question with a SERIOUS AS A HEARTATTACK answer. 

Sort of like when you say "Hey, what's you doing in my house." jokingly expecting "aww nothing" and instead getting "OMG why all the questions!  I didn't do anything! You can't blame me I swear!!"

 

And now you're after me for said slightly random with a bit of content vote....well, not REALLY.. you call me scummy but there's no vote attached..

Because i'm not as vote hoppy as you and Ï want to make a good read before I place a vote (That holds some value) so I can pressure someone.  My votes are not influenced by one post but by a whole gameplay (Wich clearly you don't get because you vote every other post).

So you had a good reason on Org when you placed a vote on him?  If not then you very much DID put a vote down with no reason behind it.  Be more consistent please.

My RandomVotes flex more than you because I want to put them to use as I get my read.  I don't just waste time putting a vote on someone I don't have a focus on.  As my focus stays on a person, so does my vote. 

But we shouldn't be talking about how we vote.  We should be talking about why you paniced once a vote fell on you.

ExKirbys vote faded because it was mostly Random just to get him to speak up more.

Did he speak more? 

Yes.  Not a whole ton but I didn't ask for a whole ton.  I just wanted a first impression.  I vote and question and look for things like...oooh, panic, losing of cool, cracking, forgetting to scumhunt, and overall self-defensiveness to something that's not exactly serious.

Yes, I'm saying ExKirby is handling himself better than you are.

Your vote was for the same thing: I was still in RVS, noticed your post, decided to throw a poke at you before moving on to another. 

Your vote hopping doesnt help.  It just removes any value you can have for your votes.

Funny.. last I checked my votes were FOR you.  They were for ME and my attempt to find scum.  Sorry I'm not the buddy buddy type though that wants you to value my votes.

It seems, though, that you seem very worried that you'll get lynched for it. 

Yes... I'm shaking.  I'm not worried.  I'm pissed that you THROW BULLSHIT my way for not posting content when I've been busy and havent given this game a good read yet.

We're still VERY early into the day and most of the talk has been about Issues.  There wasn't anything to READ. 

Seriously, I've seen people lynched for far less panic and hysteria than you are giving. 

So thank you for providing content.  Self-protective, OMGUSy, overemotional, VERY scummy content.

Bullshit.  Bullshit.  Bullshit.

I will always be self-protective because I'm not stupid.  I dont want to lose.  If I'm lynched it hurst the town (they lose a town player and they lose  a decent scumhunter IMO ).  OMGUSy??? First you claim that I didnt vote you and now you call me OMGUSy?? That's a fucked up double standard.  You're going to go after what I say regardless of what I say?  Black is bad but white is bad too.  Overemotional?  Right... As if you didn't know me...  I get pissed when people use bullshit reasons and I respond strongly.  If you think that is OVER emotional or that I lose control in any way you  have much to learn.

Meh, yah, I remember the mess that was Bay 12. 

Now you say "VERY scummy content." ... lol... you suck... sudden CAPS to enforce something you really don't believe in won't help your attempt of a case.

It is scummy.  You panic like the whole world will lose if you die, rather than like a townie that realizes it just sucks a little.

My vote stays and it's no longer Random.

For bullshit reasons.  If you're town you're stubborn and blind.   If you're scum, it makes so much sense.

How about 'I'm town and trying to read you since it's DAY 1 and you're the first person to do something worthy of a spotlight'?

Yah... this REALLY does sound like Bay 12. :/

YOU DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION.  WHY DID YOU BLATANTLY AVOID A QUESTION POSED AT YOU IN BOLD LETTERS?[/size][/b]

I thought capitals didn't help the matter?

I answered the question.  I voted for you because you caught my eye and it was a randomvote with a touch of extra.  You're looking for "Why I think you are scum and need to die instead of others."  That's for later in the day. 

So after all that fun I get my read of you.  Yah, you're like in bay 12.  You were town there.  It's fun to go into WOT arguments with you, but, in the end, it WAS a randomvote to read you that turned into an attack to get something real out of you.  What I got was your Meta which was the same then as it was now. 

I don't know your mafia meta, but that's what watching and reading is for.  For now, I'm content.

Though meh.. back to randomness.
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That's where he said it.

[Frelock]

That's where he said it.

After reading that post 3 times, I see no reference to archangel: only dak attacking Alex.

Why don't you just admit that you have stated no reason whatsoever to vote for Archangel?

[Mr.Person]

Org... Rooster... Who do you think is scum?

Dont know, but where is Mr. person? Kinda lurking, and he usually does not lurk

Good job avoiding the question, Org. Got no suspicions? Get some.

Alex: That would be easier in a 9 people game. So far I think Mr.Person might be scum (omg newbie just pointed at a lurker!) and Ex Kirby (He just acted weird but I'm unsure what whas a scumtell and what a townietell)

Logically a lurker would be scum, but hey! most scum know about this therefore only newb scum would do so I think.

If you're trying to imply that I'm lurking on purpose, you might as well cut that crap out right now. Good job on not clearly stating your attacks. "Logically a lurker would be scum". Really? That doesn't even make any sense, why don't you try again?

Well, thinking about it, the advantages to censorship seem more than enough to move over. What's more fun than depriving the scum of an issue to conservatize?

[Org]

I was saying you are suspicious.

[Mr.Person]

I was saying you are suspicious.

For being gone?

[Org]

I was saying you are suspicious.

For being gone?

Sure.