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Author Topic: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!  (Read 18334 times)

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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #195 on: November 17, 2009, 05:29:31 pm »

For one:  Cults are almost always horribly broken.

For two: How in the world did I manage to attract that much wrath on night 1?

For three: I actually stole this power night 0:

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And then didn't actually use it because I wasn't sure when the night would end and missed it.

Although for that matter, if I was able to steal the power, I'm not sure it would have protected me from the oddity that was night 1 anyways...
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #196 on: November 17, 2009, 05:42:47 pm »

Werl these kind of bastard mafya's tend to be a bit hit and miss from a balance perspective, all things considered. That's one of the things that makes them fun :P
Actually, everyone having a chance to win if they can figure out the bastard mod's bastardry is what makes it fun, if you ask me.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #197 on: November 17, 2009, 05:43:51 pm »

Cults are only really broken if they hang around after the Cult Leader dies. Otherwise they're just super powerful.

In this instance for Example, Prinny's death should have resulted in the two Cultists dying off, leaving Org and MrPerson to duke it out.


Cults recruiting Mafia is very broken (usually.)



The main reason Cults are so dangerous is you don't know they're there until you get one by accident; you know Mafia are there, so you're looking for them, but you don't know Cults are there, so most people don't look for them, and usually by the time they're revealed, it's too late.

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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #198 on: November 17, 2009, 05:46:51 pm »

In this instance for Example, Prinny's death should have resulted in the two Cultists dying off, leaving Org and MrPerson to duke it out.

I don't see how I was able to be converted by Prinny before killing him off. Silly ordering if you ask me. Deaths should go before converts.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #199 on: November 17, 2009, 05:51:00 pm »

Sorry
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #200 on: November 17, 2009, 05:51:24 pm »

In this instance for Example, Prinny's death should have resulted in the two Cultists dying off, leaving Org and MrPerson to duke it out.

I don't see how I was able to be converted by Prinny before killing him off. Silly ordering if you ask me. Deaths should go before converts.

Depends on the order of actions people are using.

In most Mafias i know, Deaths do not interrupt actions (they're usually tallied up at the end of the night, so to speak.)

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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #201 on: November 17, 2009, 06:16:07 pm »

...Exkirby hasn't watched Firefly? Yikes.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #202 on: November 17, 2009, 06:16:20 pm »

Cults are only really broken if they hang around after the Cult Leader dies. Otherwise they're just super powerful.

In this instance for Example, Prinny's death should have resulted in the two Cultists dying off, leaving Org and MrPerson to duke it out.
In this instance for Example, Prinny's death should have resulted in the two Cultists dying off, leaving Org and MrPerson to duke it out.

I don't see how I was able to be converted by Prinny before killing him off. Silly ordering if you ask me. Deaths should go before converts.

Hahah, both of these things were what I was assuming based on past experience until ExKirb told me otherwise. I was going to use the action to become immune to the night kill if it had been that way- So... it still would've been sort of sucky, since I would've been getting a free night, and then a lynch given Dak's power. Honestly though, yea, if those had been in place, things would have been a lot harder for me. I think there was a point just before the last phase when I heard that the cult didn't die with me when I just sort of stopped caring...

That said, I definitely failed at a lot of things this round. Looks like I have to work on my skills still. Ehhh...
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #203 on: November 17, 2009, 06:18:09 pm »

...Exkirby hasn't watched Firefly? Yikes.
I know, thats what I was saying.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #204 on: November 18, 2009, 02:44:14 am »

Allow me to make matters worse. I have never HEARD of Firefly.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #205 on: November 18, 2009, 03:25:40 am »

Allow me to make matters worse. I have never HEARD of Firefly.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #206 on: November 18, 2009, 10:27:26 am »

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I don't see how I was able to be converted by Prinny before killing him off. Silly ordering if you ask me. Deaths should go before converts.
Deaths are almost always at the very end of the night, aren't they?
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #207 on: November 18, 2009, 10:46:05 am »

Deaths are always the last thing to happen and happen at the same time.  Thus cops get their last inspection, Doctors can still protect, and cults get to convert.

Simply put, cults are more dangerous than mafia, even without a SuperRecruit.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #208 on: November 18, 2009, 10:50:06 am »

Given that, there is ONE flaw that occured that might've changed things:

Prinny tried to recruit Janus while me and Kashyyk went to kill him. Prinny saw the killers and turned away avoiding the conversion.

In truth, what should've happened is that the conversion should've gone first.  Thus Janus should've died a cultist and NOT as town.  This would've changed the game dramatically since it would peg Prinny as the leader.
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Re: BYOR-The ExKirby Version-Night 2!
« Reply #209 on: November 18, 2009, 10:51:58 am »

That's true... although cults can be balanced if:

-The leader dying causes all of the cult to die
-The cult leader can only recruit every other night
-Cultists lose their former abilities
-The leader can't recruit mafia members

So yeah, cults can be on equal footing with the mafia.
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