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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #135 on: December 11, 2009, 10:26:46 am »

Black Metal, one assumes, is rage embodied.

It is. It is the condensed quintessence of it.
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« Reply #136 on: December 11, 2009, 04:54:05 pm »

Forgive my curiosity: as a requirement to be labeled black metal, is it necessary for a song to actually have extremely angry lyrics? Or does it merely need to provoke a sense of rage and/or energy?

I don't delve into that side of the metal spectrum as often as I should.
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« Reply #137 on: December 11, 2009, 05:01:43 pm »

It depends.  If you're one of those tr00 kvlt tards, yes.  The music has to be nihilistic and suicidally angry.  If you're a reasonable well-adjusted person, no.  That's like saying rap can only be about gangsta stuff.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #138 on: December 13, 2009, 06:46:45 pm »

death metal is rage embodied, black metal is a satanic music that tries to be both tragic and deep, and scary and evil, booo, i'm soo satanic

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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #139 on: December 13, 2009, 10:59:24 pm »

Been listening to Masterplan since it came up on pandora. They're pretty good.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #140 on: December 14, 2009, 09:51:53 am »

I personaly don't care what type of metal a song is, I hate how poeple get so worked up about it so I don't bother with classing songs/bands any more as I make a lot of n00b mistakes and seen people rip into each other on youtube comments.

What are peoples take on Metallica? Metal hasn't really been popular but resently I've seen there songs, new and old, appear on peoples music players that I would of never associated with listening to Metal.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #141 on: December 14, 2009, 10:04:40 am »

People's take is: Metallica is awesome, but stay away from St. Anger.

I haven't listened to anything from St. Anger myself, so I can't honestly offer an opinion.
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« Reply #142 on: December 14, 2009, 10:16:51 am »

I've listened to St Anger and I liked it =3

I do prefer other stuff, I'm a ..And Justice For All and Black Album person
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« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2009, 10:45:54 am »

It depends.  If you're one of those tr00 kvlt tards, yes.  The music has to be nihilistic and suicidally angry.  If you're a reasonable well-adjusted person, no.  That's like saying rap can only be about gangsta stuff.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #144 on: December 14, 2009, 12:05:31 pm »

Listening to Blue Cheer, specifically their first album.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2009, 12:35:49 pm »

I've listened to St Anger and I liked it =3

I do prefer other stuff, I'm a ..And Justice For All and Black Album person

I like St. Anger. It is very different from anything else Metallica has done but it is still a good album. I Like everything metallica has ever recorded, but Hetfeild's voice before ...And Justice for All get on my nerves after a while. In my opinion, S&M is metallica's best album and I think they should do another S&M-style album in a few years.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #146 on: December 14, 2009, 03:42:08 pm »

death metal is rage embodied, black metal is a satanic music that tries to be both tragic and deep, and scary and evil, booo, i'm soo satanic

Satanism is quite often encountered, but there are quite a few bands which focus on misantrophy rather than anti-christianism. Death metal is more gore, rape, torturing, mutilating, necrophilia and stuff.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #147 on: December 14, 2009, 04:20:24 pm »

death metal is rage embodied, black metal is a satanic music that tries to be both tragic and deep, and scary and evil, booo, i'm soo satanic
Death metal is more gore, rape, torturing, mutilating, necrophilia and stuff.

Da' fuck death metal do you listen to?

Maybe it's because I listen to melodeath, but I haven't heard very much songs about any of that. Or, like, any.
Usually it's about loss, death, passing away and sadness. At least the death metal I listen to.
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Re: The Metal Thread
« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2009, 04:55:58 pm »

Amorphis are also awesome. I think Porcupine Tree might count as metal now, certainly they've pursued a heavier sound over the past few albums.
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« Reply #149 on: December 14, 2009, 07:32:24 pm »

There's a lot of complex thematic history to both death metal and black metal. Black metal grew out of the frozen climes of Scandanavia and so was originally full of themes of desolate isolation; the rising level of non-Christians there also fuelled some anti-Christian (and later more generally anti-religious) lyrics, but these are mostly accessories to the persistent themes of frozen wastelands, silent forests and (at least in European black metal) norse mythology. Death metal on the other hand was originally a branch of heavy metal that drifted away from what it perceived as populist concepts towards more extreme ideas, songs about the limits of human experience; death, drugs, murder and the like.

Of course the style of both has been blended with other thematic strains, such that most of the melodic black/death metal I like has none of these themes. Thematic content has been largely separated from the genre conventions of sound and style.
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