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[smjjames]

I'm not color-blind so I don't know what it's like.

There's different types of color blindness, so even if you were, you might not be able to appreciate the previous poster's problem.

Anyway, I'm not color blind, at least not to my knowledge, but I do am, shall we say, not very sensitive to color. I used to catch myself having problems differentiating between light wounds and lopped off in this game. I really don't understand why they'd use two shades of the same color for such diametrically different grades of trauma.

Actually, just about everybody could mistake one for the other because the two shades are similar and at first glance could be mistaken for bieng lopped off.

[silhouette]

they really should change it to something like black.

[smjjames]

You can change the wound status colors to whatever you want in the next version, so.. yea you can change it to black if you wanted to in the next release.

[kobot]

I unknowingly embarked on a freezing mountain which was too freezing
It was so cold that upon embark five of my dwarves instantaneously froze to death and one of them suffered frostbite damage on every limb and fell into a coma from which he never awoke.
My one remaining dwarf, the farmer, quickly dug down a level to get out of the cold and began the lonely task of trying to build a fortress by himself. He was promptly eaten by a GCS which dwelt by the neighbouring chasm.

My question is why the cold effected my dwarves unevenly?
They were wearing roughly the same clothing, eg. no one had any armour on.

[Vayre]

Did the farmer have any toughness levels?

And a question from me, if I made a fortress, the laison died, then the fortress was abandoned, if I 1).Reclaimed that fortress or  2). made a new fortress ( but with the same parent civ) would either of those alforts get a new laison?

[eastwind]

I never seem to get my appraiser leveled very far past what he embarks with (I always buy a proficient appraiser because it's so hard to level).  Does anyone know if I can level this skill by repeatedly requesting the broker and sending him away during the same merchant visit?

(I read on the wiki that exp is granted for this skill based on the amount of goods at the depot when he arrives -- but I don't know if you can get that to count multiple times during a single merchant visit)

Maybe I'm worried over something that isn't important, should I even care about the appraiser skill? I usually have so much goblin loot to sell after a couple of years that maybe I should bring a different skill and start at dabbling and not worry about it.

[geoduck]

I never seem to get my appraiser leveled very far past what he embarks with (I always buy a proficient appraiser because it's so hard to level).  Does anyone know if I can level this skill by repeatedly requesting the broker and sending him away during the same merchant visit?

(I read on the wiki that exp is granted for this skill based on the amount of goods at the depot when he arrives -- but I don't know if you can get that to count multiple times during a single merchant visit)

The wiki also says that your appraiser gains experience with every successful trade, so doing three or four small swaps with the same caravan might be better than one big one.

Since it's currently so easy to churn out/collect high-value trade goods, it's really not critical that your trader be super-experienced; just enough that you can see the prices, and the merchant's reaction to your offer(s). You get that long before "proficient" level.

[AceOne]

ok, nub question time, I have been playing on and off DF for a couple of weeks now, and Typically like to embark on a site with a River that I divert into my fortress, but the problem is draining the water, I now that water drains if you get to the edge of the map (but you cant dig there) so does anyone one have any suggestions on how to get the water there, and if not... is there a mod around that lets you dig to the edge?

note: with out using chasms or anything like that either.

[geoduck]

I now that water drains if you get to the edge of the map (but you cant dig there) so does anyone one have any suggestions on how to get the water there, and if not... is there a mod around that lets you dig to the edge?

You can smooth (keys d - s) the stone at the very edge of the map, and then carve fortifications (keys d - a) in it. This will let the water drain out. You will need a dwarf with hir job set to "stone detailing." You should also carve a staircase down two or three levels at the end of your drain-tunnel and smooth/fortify there as well; makes sure the water doesn't back up and flood your fort.

[happydog23]

2 Questions:

1) Cave-in related:

If I mine out a room, and then build walls to refil the space... will A cave in punch through the rebuilt walls?

For Example:

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XXXXXQQQXXXX
X__________X
X__________X
X__________X
XXXXXXXXXXXX
In the pictures above, if I cave in the three Q's (X's are un-mined space), I think the Q's are going to fall through the two floors and land on top of the bottom row of X's.

But if I do this:

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XXXXXQQQXXXX
X__________X
X____CCC___X
X__________X
XXXXXXXXXXXX

Will the cave in punch through the Constructed walls? (the C's above).


And second (this has to do with HFS, so don't open the spoiler tags if you don't want to know.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have a map with HFS.  The fancy blue rocks are approximately 50z levels from the bottom of the map with a 50z "tunnel" that leads to the errie glowing pit.  I know that I'll get a king if I don't have one and start some ruckus if I breach the room (50Z levels up), but will I cause any chaos if I end up breaching the pit far below the fancy blue rocks?   

Also in the event that I collapse the entire mountain that the HFS is in, would that start events... or prevent them from starting?

Thanks!

[Elvang]

1. No, the walls will stop a cavein.
2. Pretty sure that as soon as you see the blue the related message comes up.

[Qwernt]

I never seem to get my appraiser leveled very far past what he embarks with (I always buy a proficient appraiser because it's so hard to level).  Does anyone know if I can level this skill by repeatedly requesting the broker and sending him away during the same merchant visit?

(I read on the wiki that exp is granted for this skill based on the amount of goods at the depot when he arrives -- but I don't know if you can get that to count multiple times during a single merchant visit)

The wiki also says that your appraiser gains experience with every successful trade, so doing three or four small swaps with the same caravan might be better than one big one.

Since it's currently so easy to churn out/collect high-value trade goods, it's really not critical that your trader be super-experienced; just enough that you can see the prices, and the merchant's reaction to your offer(s). You get that long before "proficient" level.

Actually after modding a bit I am pretty sure that appraiser skill comes not from the trade, but from viewing the stuff.  And it only works once per caravan.  Basically I just added a digit or two to the max capacity and found that just opening the trading window (and closing it) once was enough to get a legendary trader. (how many legendary traders do you need?)

[happydog23]

Anyone happen to know if you setup an obsidian farm inside an above ground constructed tower, if it will go nuclear/collapse?

I'm thinking of filling a room with a constructed floor (and nothing but another constructed floor on the level below) with magma and dropping water from two floors above.... can you make obsidian that way?  or will it deconstruct the floor the magma is on and potentially create a cavein?

And secondly, would it work better if instead of doing on a constructed foor, it was done on top of walls constructed from the level below?

[gtmattz]

HFS Question..

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I always breach my HFS on the bottom level, as it gives me time to build a wall in the mined space before the clowns can escape.  So far I have found that I get the messages concerning the cotton candy being found etc, but I do not get the king until I actually mine some of the stuff.  This is purely based on my own experience, but it has been predictable so I think that the trigger for the ruler is based on the amount of actual cotton candy mined and not just exposing the veins.

[Skorpion]

Cotton candy is misleading. I prefer clownite.