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Author Topic: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.  (Read 40249 times)

Jude

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« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2009, 10:42:24 pm »

Also, the fact that it would be physically impossible to carry out or enforce such a law should be a tip-off
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2009, 10:48:21 pm »

The reson that people are skeptical mate (i'm sure the OP will be back :P) is simply because you've taken someones opinion on what the bill will do and posted that up as fact. That's just not how it works.
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« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2009, 11:04:46 pm »

I think it's directly proportional to the corruption in the UN, at least in its drafters. Some seem to think they're a cut above the rest.
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« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2009, 11:21:02 pm »

The reson that people are skeptical mate (i'm sure the OP will be back :P) is simply because you've taken someones opinion on what the bill will do and posted that up as fact. That's just not how it works.
Well, and the fact that a) it's an extremely improbable thing and b) the only sources are people's blogs
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« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2009, 11:27:38 pm »

Looks like a main course of HOPE with a side of fucking CHANGE. Don't forget to spread that wealth around! THANKS FOR VOTING, BY THE WAY.
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« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2009, 11:36:33 pm »

I have no faith in the UN. Our ex-prime minister got elected there, and is now one of the most influential women in the world...

There's a reason she's our EX-prime minister...
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« Reply #66 on: November 06, 2009, 01:21:57 am »

Okay, I haven't read the entire thread, so this may be proven fake already, but I need to know.

If someone was accused of breaking copyright then the entire family loses internet access?

That'd put my father out of a job in an instant. Is this what they are proposing?
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« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2009, 01:48:01 am »

I sincerely doubt this will pass, if only because it would be completely impossible to enforce and would shut down numerous gargantuan websites like Youtube, or Facebook.

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« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2009, 04:28:44 am »

I sincerely doubt this will pass, if only because it would be completely impossible to enforce and would shut down numerous gargantuan websites like Youtube, or Facebook.

Also if "acussation -> no trial -> mandatory removal" system gets real, guess what webpages will be the first to be acussed? Pages of goverment, DRM sympathizants, etc (however also bittorent sharing sites, warez forums, etc)
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2009, 04:30:15 am »

And yeah.
If this passes...

Open and Free Software for everyone!

Public, World-wide LAN.

Each neighbourhood got their own router!
When the polices came, use the military-grade magnets!



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And I'm sure if this passed, Indonesia will implement it too. F#%!# Americo-centrists...
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« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2009, 05:34:25 am »

I sincerely doubt this will pass, if only because it would be completely impossible to enforce and would shut down numerous gargantuan websites like Youtube, or Facebook.

Also if "acussation -> no trial -> mandatory removal" system gets real, guess what webpages will be the first to be acussed? Pages of goverment, DRM sympathizants, etc (however also bittorent sharing sites, warez forums, etc)

I sincerely doubt anyone will actually ratify something that is so ovbiously abusable.

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« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2009, 06:05:35 am »

All I see from this is ridiculous fees for monitoring, etc. And believe it or not, a little copyright infringement is free advertising. If someone posts a video clip, it's advertising. If someone posts 10 minutes of a movie, it's advertising. If someone posts a clip of some kid beating Guitar Hero 8 on Heroic, advertising.

Nobody's going to make much money from the whole plan. They can implement it pretty easily and cheaply with the technology they have, though, it's not really a problem.
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« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2009, 08:17:23 am »

You know. I think that we, as free thinking people, should start to either shoot or bomb any places in which such retardation happens.

Secondly, I think we should start encrypting everything. One of the most absurd things on the document was the border search of digital media... If you try to travel to another country with your laptop, they would have given the right to actually take your laptop, search for anything they can deem illegal and if they do, they can take your fucking laptop from you. Just like that. Or your ipod, or your cellphone, or pretty much anything that can store data.

Anyway, I vote for abolishing copyright.
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« Reply #73 on: November 06, 2009, 08:27:25 am »

I support Copyright

I just don't support the stupid and abusive aspects of it.

No one should be able to make a buisness out of copyrighting a bunch of things with hopes that someone will stumble into it.
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« Reply #74 on: November 06, 2009, 09:10:09 am »

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ACTA would establish a new international legal framework that countries can join on a voluntary basis

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That the whole world must adopt US-style “notice-and-takedown” rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused

don't mix. See the definition of "voluntary basis".
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