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[SalmonGod]

Affordability of medicines is one of the hottest topics in the overall intellectual property debate.

[Max White]

Ah, I see.
So you mean we are also fighting large pharmaceutics? Son of a...

[SalmonGod]

Ah, I see.
So you mean we are also fighting large pharmaceutics? Son of a...

Yup.  My dad works for one of them.  He's a globally respected pharmacokineticist.    He's also been rather nervous lately.  Several of their most profitable drugs have patents set to expire soon, and they don't have any good breakthroughs in the pipeline anytime soon.  There's been a lot of tension in the corporate side of things lately, because they expect a major drop in profits.  They've been throwing themselves pretty heavily at IP legislation lately.

[Montague]

I'm doubtful of the effectiveness of protests and roits. Look at the annual G8 and G20 roits/protests. Predictible balls-out protests and even violence hasn't discouraged them at all.

French MEP quits ACTA 'charade' in protest at EU signing

Ugh, the French are always right...

[alway]

http://thedailywh.at/2012/01/26/photo-of-the-day-18/
Polish opposition dons Guy Fawkes masks in protest of ACTA signing.

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[Max White]

Heh, that is amazing...
Sort of makes me want to go see what 4chan is up to.
Then I remember that I have no interest in seeing what 4chan is up to, and are happy to watch the aftermath... Still, they must be having a party!

[PTTG??]

We need Anonymous to get its act together and start publicizing darknet. We can outrun the aging government.

[GlyphGryph]

He's also been rather nervous lately.  Several of their most profitable drugs have patents set to expire soon, and they don't have any good breakthroughs in the pipeline anytime soon.  There's been a lot of tension in the corporate side of things lately, because they expect a major drop in profits. 

This is how the system is supposed to work, though - you aren't supposed to keep profiting off the same stuff - you make progress, or you die (economically, of course), making room for those who are managing to create new stuff and giving them additional resources to work with based off your expired patents. That's how the incentive structure works.

If they can't figure out how to make new stuff, the solution isn't to let them keep making profits - it's to let them go out of business, because their benefit to society has ended.

[Gantolandon]

Meanwhile in Poland... There was a little scandal. Apparently, after the Sejm commitee has passed a desideratum urging the Prime Minister to postpone signing of ACTA, someone called the next day. A woman, who claimed to speak from the USA embassy, were asking questions, trying to learn how it was possible. She asked, for example, how many deputized voted for and against it and if there were "Sejm discipline" (it's a practice which most of the Polish parties try to enforce - every deputy has to vote according to the official party line). The press office of the embassy, when the curious reporters called, claimed they don't know about any such event. Still, most of the deputes are somewhat pissed.

[etgfrog]

welp...i've known the end times were coming for quite a while...i almost feel horible for knowing that this stuff would happen...while i'm tempted to go don one of those mask and hope to do something against the goverment(as long as its non-violent)...i realy cant since i'm 70% certain anon will go start focusing on getting rid of religion(indoctrination will probably be their rally cry against it) after their ideals are widely supported and goverments shift twords them...

unfortunitly...for the time being, it looks like anon is the lesser of evils...

[SalmonGod]

He's also been rather nervous lately.  Several of their most profitable drugs have patents set to expire soon, and they don't have any good breakthroughs in the pipeline anytime soon.  There's been a lot of tension in the corporate side of things lately, because they expect a major drop in profits. 

This is how the system is supposed to work, though - you aren't supposed to keep profiting off the same stuff - you make progress, or you die (economically, of course), making room for those who are managing to create new stuff and giving them additional resources to work with based off your expired patents. That's how the incentive structure works.

If they can't figure out how to make new stuff, the solution isn't to let them keep making profits - it's to let them go out of business, because their benefit to society has ended.

Oh, I know, and I agree.  Regardless of the ideal, the company's motivation is still going to be to use the resources available to them to pre-empt their own obsolescence by hacking the system, when they know there's not much chance of conducting business legitimately.  IP law is just one such backdoor that gives them the opportunity.

[Aqizzar]

Hilariously enough, Twitter has just announced plans to censor itself, to bring it into compliance with various government restrictions around the world.  After being "instrumental" in the Arab uprisings (for about a day or two each), this has a lot of people pretty ticked off.

[Tilla]

Hilariously, every masked member of Anonymous is paying funds directly into the pockets of Time Warner by buying their licensed V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks.

[Loud Whispers]

Sort of makes me want to go see what 4chan is up to.
Then I remember that I have no interest in seeing what 4chan is up to, and are happy to watch the aftermath... Still, they must be having a party!

As I recall, one of the ACTA threads turned into a flame war, that turned into a thread about orange soda. Meanwhile, the useful parts of 4chan are pissed, and talks of riots, demonstrations and other means of protest are ongoing.

Hilariously, every masked member of Anonymous is paying funds directly into the pockets of Time Warner by buying their licensed V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks.

Unless they buy Guy Fawkes masks, and not V ones. Or if they don't buy them from Time Warner. Also, try to stay on topic, this is about ACTA not who likes/hates anonymous :/

[Tilla]

Sort of makes me want to go see what 4chan is up to.
Then I remember that I have no interest in seeing what 4chan is up to, and are happy to watch the aftermath... Still, they must be having a party!

As I recall, one of the ACTA threads turned into a flame war, that turned into a thread about orange soda. Meanwhile, the useful parts of 4chan are pissed, and talks of riots, demonstrations and other means of protest are ongoing.

Hilariously, every masked member of Anonymous is paying funds directly into the pockets of Time Warner by buying their licensed V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks.

Unless they buy Guy Fawkes masks, and not V ones. Or if they don't buy them from Time Warner. Also, try to stay on topic, this is about ACTA not who likes/hates anonymous :/

I don't hate Anonymous. Not in the least. But it is INCREDIBLY ironic that they're protesting bigmedia while wearing something purchased directly from one of the biggest companies.

And no, you cannot find a plain Guy Fawkes mask anymore basically anywhere outside of maybe the UK itself. They're ALL licensed V for Vendetta masks.