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[Neruz]

So, i've been turning over various ideas for different Mafia games, mostly bastard-mod ones, after toying with a couple of 'puzzle mafia' varients this one hit me, it seems feasible and probably fun, so i thought i'd give it a shot and see how it works. If it works out then that's a good sign for a couple of other ideas i've had.

Spoiler: Double Bluff Mafia Overview (click to show/hide)

DB Mafia changes the standard Mafia setup somewhat; there are only Mafia teams, and their goal is not to eliminate the enemy teams, but rather to get the most points.

Players are randomly assigned a "Kill Condition", which is either Lynch or Night Kill, if a player with the Lynch condition is Lynched, his team gains a point. If a player with the Night Kill condition is Lynched, his team loses a point, and visa-versa.

The goal therefore is to determine what conditions the opposing Mafioso's have and ensure they are not met, i'm not entirely sure how this will work out, but it should be interesting.

Spoiler: Role Generation (click to show/hide)

In trying out another potentially interesting system, i'll be using a randomised role generator. The role generator will assign 'abilities' such as inspect, night kill, day kill, roleblock, mirror etc. It will assign 0 - 2 'Persistant' abilities which have no limits on use, and 0 - 4 limited abilities, which can only be used once. I've skewed the system to avoid people with 0 abilities and 6 abilities, but the possibilities do still exist, they're just highly unlikely.

Role names are then generated based on abilities, the system seems coherant, although occasionally it turns out a real winner which makes me stop for a few minutes until i stop laughing (for example i gave 'blanket' as a related name word to the Protect ability, and 'slaughter' as a related name to the day kill ability, a role with unlimited day kills and 1 protect ended up being called a "Slaughterblanket" which made me giggle for awhile.)

I've pulled the abilities from the Mafia wiki, and given them approximised power ratings as well as opposing powers, to avoid a player ending up with the Jester win condition and the Unlynchable and Un-Night-Killable powers and soforth.

Ovbiously, ideally i need a number of people that is easily divisible into teams, 12 people for example could be divided into 3 teams of 4, and so on. But if i end up with an undivisible number there are certain options that remain available to me. Tee hee.


Oh, and as a fair warning; this is a semi Bastard-Mod Mafia. You can probably trust me.



Thoughts? Sign ups? Go for it.

Oh, and i'll run a vote for Hammers or Deadlines, so vote for which one you want when you sign up.


Standard Mafia rules apply. You may PM each other, but i must be copied in on each PM. Direct quoting the role PM in it's entirity is not allowed (unless, of course, it is), pretending to quote the role PM and actually making shit up on the spot is fine (unless, of course, it isn't.)




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Pandarsenic (Hammerers!)
Org (Hammerers!)
ExKirby (Hammerers!)
Vector (Did Not Vote!)
Tack (Hammerers!)

[Pandarsenic]

inandhammers

[dakarian]

Hmm, one thing about that setup:

What's to encourage the teams to kill each other? 

i.e. If I'm in the Litia mafia and you are in the Webadict mafia, why should I vote or NK you?  What do I gain by, say, NKing you when you'd rather be lynched?

[Org]

inandhammers

[Pandarsenic]

Hmm, one thing about that setup:

What's to encourage the teams to kill each other? 

i.e. If I'm in the Litia mafia and you are in the Webadict mafia, why should I vote or NK you?  What do I gain by, say, NKing you when you'd rather be lynched?

Their team loses a point.

[webadict]

Hmm, one thing about that setup:

What's to encourage the teams to kill each other? 

i.e. If I'm in the Litia mafia and you are in the Webadict mafia, why should I vote or NK you?  What do I gain by, say, NKing you when you'd rather be lynched?

Their team loses a point.

The goal is to outguess them.

[ExKirby]

In! And Hamma time!

[Neruz]

Hmm, one thing about that setup:

What's to encourage the teams to kill each other? 

i.e. If I'm in the Litia mafia and you are in the Webadict mafia, why should I vote or NK you?  What do I gain by, say, NKing you when you'd rather be lynched?

Their team loses a point.

The goal is to outguess them.

Exactly; the goal is to get the mostest points, even if your team ends up dead, if you get the most points, you still win; killing people in the way they don't want to be killed removes points from their team (negative scores are possible).

So the trick is to try and get yourself killed in the right way, while killing the other mafiosos in the wrong way, plus with a bunch of randomised roles thrown in for lols.

[Vector]

Man... I'm going to suck at this, but why not.  In.

[Mr.Person]

If you kill off the entire enemy team, you get full points for the rest of your team. After all, you control the lynch and nightkills, so you're obviously going to do your side properly.

[Neruz]

Well you could just immediately start killing off your own team to maximise your points, fortunately there are roles that discourage that.

[Neruz]

Also, neeed moooaaar peeeooopple. *Waves Hand Slowly* You want to join Double Bluff Mafia.

[Mr.Person]

Well you could just immediately start killing off your own team to maximise your points, fortunately there are roles that discourage that.

I was talking specifically about if the entire enemy team is dead. Not much you can do while dead, eh?

[Neruz]

Well you could just immediately start killing off your own team to maximise your points, fortunately there are roles that discourage that.

I was talking specifically about if the entire enemy team is dead. Not much you can do while dead, eh?

Maaybe.

[ExKirby]

And this is where Bastard-Mod kicks in!