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[Rooster]

Halmie: see what I did there?
The votes are evened out now. This will cause radical changes. Eighter somebody steps up and makes a deciding vote, or everyone dogpiles, OR The accusing and talking will be alive again.
The vote wasn't personal or random in any way.

I'm out of scumtells (for The evil monk) that's why I'm not pushing my vote. Day 2 I could, but day 1 its a lot harder. He's still on suspects list, but to me he looks town. On the other hand Nirur Torir is so un-suspicious that he's my number 2 suspect.
That's right Nirur. I'm watching you!

[Nirur Torir]

I'm not entirely satisfied with your answer, but it wasn't a very good question. Since I'm out of things to ask at the moment, I'll hold off on further questioning. For now.

[Vector]

A sidenote.

It seems that players in general are feeling that they're progressing because they suspect everyone.  This is a partial truth.  If you take everyone's words precisely as written, you will die.  If you suspect absolutely everyone, however, you will also die.  Your job as townies is not to be scared and think everyone is suspicious.  Your job is to keep your cool and systematically press those around you, so that at lylo you aren't sitting around with four people you all strongly suspect of being scum.

That situation is very, very bad, and is extremely favorable for scum.  Town has to communicate, or else it will die; but the scum will use your communications to get you dead, if you aren't careful.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

What does lylo mean?

[Vector]

What does lylo mean?

"Lynch or lose."  That is, when the town has to hit scum, or they'll lose the game.

[dakarian]

Example:

5 players alive.  2 scum, 3 town.  It is daytime.

If the town fails to lynch a scum this day, the mafia will kill a townie the following night, leaving behind 2 town and 2 scum: a mafia victory.

Even if the town No lynches, they lose thanks to the night kill.

Thus LYnch or LOse, or LyLo

[Jim Groovester]

Alright, I just logged onto a computer after yesterday. Just posting to say I'm here. I'll have to look through the thread, because even though I've been following it, I haven't been following it closely.

I'll get back to you guys and your questions as well as who I think is suspicious in a little bit.

[GlyphGryph]

Vote count / lynch time restatement please.

[GlyphGryph]

It seems that players in general are feeling that they're progressing because they suspect everyone.

What I meant by watching myself "progress" in the "good" way, just the gradual change in the way I saw the game.

[Vector]

It seems that players in general are feeling that they're progressing because they suspect everyone.

What I meant by watching myself "progress" in the "good" way, just the gradual change in the way I saw the game.

Yeah, don't worry about it.  I'm just trying to impress on you folks that you need to try to get definite answers and use every day that you have.  It's hard to escape from self-established pools of confusion.  Don't worry about it, you're all doing great 

[dakarian]

Current Vote Count:
GlyphGryph[2]: Diakron, Rooster
Rooster[2]: Nirur Torir, Dirtybirdy
Diakron[2]: GlyphGryph, RandomNumberGenerator

Not Voting: Jim Groovester, theevilmonk, Halmie

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST

[Jim Groovester]

Alright, I've done a quick scan.

RandomNumberGenerator is the person I most believe to be scum at this point. Never the first to vote for somebody, always voting somebody only after somebody else has, never providing reasoning. He voted for Diakron after GryphGlyph delivered his wall of text against him. Previously, RNG voted for theevilmonk after Rooster questioned him. There are other things that made me suspicious before that, however.

I don't think GlyphGryph or Diakron are scum. It's easy for two townies to get into fights with each other and for the whole game to revolve around them, who voted for them, who defended them, etc. This happened a lot in the first Beginner's Mafia, and it happens frequently in other games.

The person I suspect most after RandomNumberGenerator is Nirur Torir, for continuing to ask hypothetical questions of no meaning.

Then after that, it's Rooster, theevilmonk, and Halmie.

RandomNumberGenerator, are you pushing for a Diakron lynch because you're scum and you think his tunnelvision on GryphGlyph would look suspicious enough to make him a target for an easy lynch?

Also, Day Extension. We don't want to no-lynch from a three way tie. I also don't have especially high suspicions for anybody currently being voted.

[GlyphGryph]

So when does the cop find out the results of his "investigation". Does he get a private message at the end of the day/end of the night, what?

Anyways, game specific stuff:
Jim, you bring up a good point - I do admit I was looking askance at RNG earlier. No obvious tells, but Diakron claimed he was the most experienced, and while I'm not exactly taking anything Diakron says at face value, I don't see any reason why he would lie about something like that. In addition, he seemed close to Diakron for a while, and may just be trying to distance himself now. So at the very least, I'm wary about him.

But still, he did vote for dirtybird, which doesn't exactly follow your whole "never the first vote" pattern. But then, he also didn't really press DB that much before unvoting, (nor did he press evilmonk much) so he's definitely been lax on scumhunting as a follow up to calling out lurkers, at least.

ERmergency, g2g,more then

[Pandarsenic]

It's easy for two townies to get into fights with each other and for the whole game to revolve around them, who voted for them, who defended them, etc.

This is an important point. In BM3 Diakron and I used this to stop anyone from ever looking at us (and to keep an easy lynch in reserve who would always vote for whomever we started a bandwagon on because he didn't want to do)

[Jim Groovester]

So when does the cop find out the results of his "investigation". Does he get a private message at the end of the day/end of the night, what?

I think you're just about guaranteed to be the target of the night kill. Questions regarding the function of a role tend to strongly suggest or even reveal that the person asking the questions has that role. If you have any questions like that in the future I'd suggest asking one of the ICs or the mod in private.

Fair warning.

But still, he did vote for dirtybird, which doesn't exactly follow your whole "never the first vote" pattern. But then, he also didn't really press DB that much before unvoting, (nor did he press evilmonk much) so he's definitely been lax on scumhunting as a follow up to calling out lurkers, at least.

ERmergency, g2g,more then

RNG doesn't follow the pattern of never voting for somebody first, but he doesn't have to because he's not a robot. If we assumed that the scum followed a consistent approach at all times, we'd never find them.

Rooster, right now I'm considering switching my vote to you because I find you pretty damn suspicious. So you can answer some questions of mine.

You tied the vote when you knew a deadline was shortly away. Why? I think you're scum trying to make somebody else cast a deciding vote, so you can attack him the next day when the person who's lynched flipped town. Was that your plan?

If you think theevilmonk is suspicious, why aren't you questioning him? Because you 'ran out of scumtells' isn't all that compelling. And I find it suspicious that you're backing off from him in the first place, especially if he's still suspect. Is he your scum pal? Wouldn't want to push him too hard; people might get convinced and vote for him!

Why'd you ask me which way I was going to vote? And why'd you vote me to do it? You know you don't have to vote somebody to ask them a question. And no doubt I would've told the town anyway, so why query me about my vote?

Unvote RNG. What will you do, Rooster, if the deciding vote is on you?